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Comp.Arch.FPGA | Where to find very basic FPGAs

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Where to find very basic FPGAs - weizbox - 2004-11-09 11:56:00

Hello,

Im trying to find a nice and simple FPGA board without having LEDs and
digital displays and other stuff I dont need. Im just looking for a
board with just the essentials for an fpga to run and just some
pinouts. I know some of the prototyping boards have some things like
this, but they're generaly lower end FPGAs. Im looking for atleast a
virtex-II. Anyone know of any good companys that provide something
like this without all the bells and whistles?

Thanks
-Mark
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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Hal Murray - 2004-11-09 12:42:00

>Im trying to find a nice and simple FPGA
board without having LEDs and
>digital displays and other stuff I dont need. Im just looking for a
>board with just the essentials for an fpga to run and just some
>pinouts. I know some of the prototyping boards have some things like
>this, but they're generaly lower end FPGAs. Im looking for atleast a
>virtex-II. Anyone know of any good companys that provide something
>like this without all the bells and whistles?

What do you want?  What sort of ballpark price are you interested in?

LEDs and such aren't very expensive.  You will probably do better
if you ignore them on some board that otherwise looks good.

The Spartan3 starter kit is $100.  That includes programming cable
and wall wart.  It's got a couple of 40 pin connectors, but they
don't have enough ground pins for high end work.

The FAQ has a page listing lots of board.  Google can find it.

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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Symon - 2004-11-09 12:44:00

Bless, you even posted from Google Groups! So why
not go back to the GG
search page, and search for 'simple fpga board' in CAF. It's quicker than
typing a post! ;-)
Best, Syms.
"weizbox" <m...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3...@posting.google.com...
> Hello,
>
> Im trying to find a nice and simple FPGA board without having LEDs and
> digital displays and other stuff I dont need. Im just looking for a
> board with just the essentials for an fpga to run and just some
> pinouts. I know some of the prototyping boards have some things like
> this, but they're generaly lower end FPGAs. Im looking for atleast a
> virtex-II. Anyone know of any good companys that provide something
> like this without all the bells and whistles?
>
> Thanks
> -Mark


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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Antti Lukats - 2004-11-09 13:21:00

"weizbox" <m...@gmail.com>
wrote in message
news:3...@posting.google.com...
> Hello,
>
> Im trying to find a nice and simple FPGA board without having LEDs and
> digital displays and other stuff I dont need. Im just looking for a
> board with just the essentials for an fpga to run and just some
> pinouts. I know some of the prototyping boards have some things like
> this, but they're generaly lower end FPGAs. Im looking for atleast a
> virtex-II. Anyone know of any good companys that provide something
> like this without all the bells and whistles?
>
> Thanks
> -Mark

you cant go lower than than on pricing! unfortunatly the proto on the
picture has been sold. I still have one overleft XCV2000E same package as on
the picture

http://xilinx.openchip.org/proto/

if you want something more do your homework, but expect the board with no
LEDs to cost way more than one with LED's!!
http://www.orangetreetech.com/zest100.htm

Antti
My first SoC in 1 Day?
http://ebook.openchip.org/soc1day/



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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - weizbox - 2004-11-10 09:38:00

> 
> What do you want?  What sort of ballpark price are you interested in?
> 
> LEDs and such aren't very expensive.  You will probably do better
> if you ignore them on some board that otherwise looks good.
> 
> The Spartan3 starter kit is $100.  That includes programming cable
> and wall wart.  It's got a couple of 40 pin connectors, but they
> don't have enough ground pins for high end work.
> 
> The FAQ has a page listing lots of board.  Google can find it.

Im trying to look for something a little higher end then a spartan-3,
mabye a virtex-2 pro and above, something that can run at atleast
200MHz. This isnt for any classes, its for a bigger project. I have
the spartan-3 starter board at the moment but its clock only rus to
50Mhz. Everyhting Ive seen for far has either a pci bus or some other
bus on it which I wont be needing. The spartan 3 starter kit is
basicly somehting I would like, but instead of a spartan-3, a virtex
2-pro or better. Ive looked around quite a bit and just ended up
finding stuff over 1,000 atleast but has a lot of stuff that I dont
want on it. I would like to make the connections myself since I will
be making my own daughterboard to connect to it with some ADCs and an
ethernet port. Ill keep looking around tho, but mainly Im curious if
these 1000+ ranges are typical for basic FPGAs. Since the starter kit
was pretty basic and only cost 100, I was thinking something that I
would need would be under 1000. The general specs im looking for is
something around 800k-1mil gates, with a pretty decent amount of ram.
Ill continue to search for something, and Ill post back with what I
find for references for other people if they need this info.

Thanks!
-Mark
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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Josep Durán - 2004-11-10 11:40:00

"weizbox" <m...@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3...@posting.google.com...
> The general specs im looking for is
> something around 800k-1mil gates, with a pretty decent amount of ram.

You might want to take a look at www.xess.com . They are about to
introduce the XSA-3S1000, 1M gates for under $200.

Regards

Josep Duran



Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Hal Murray - 2004-11-10 12:16:00

>Im trying to look for something a little
higher end then a spartan-3,
>mabye a virtex-2 pro and above, something that can run at atleast
>200MHz. This isnt for any classes, its for a bigger project. I have
>the spartan-3 starter board at the moment but its clock only rus to
>50Mhz. ...

Have you tried using the DCM to multiply by 4?

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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Sylvain Munaut - 2004-11-11 04:12:00

What about the Avnet Virtex-4 kit ?

http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,4534,CID%253D16863%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253DNoNav%25
26DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D4746%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html


299$ For a virtex 4 sounds ok. It's only 3x the price of the spartan3 starter kit and has
lots of stuff.



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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - weizbox - 2004-11-11 11:12:00

Sylvain Munaut
<t...@reducespam.com> wrote in message
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> What about the Avnet Virtex-4 kit ?
> 
>
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,4534,CID%253D16863%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253DNoNav%25
26DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D4746%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html
> 
> 
> 299$ For a virtex 4 sounds ok. It's only 3x the price of the spartan3 starter kit and
has lots of stuff.
> 
> 
> 
> Sylvain



That definetly has been the best priced thing ive seen so far. Thank
you very much for that link, I beleive I will be getting that.

Thanks
-Mark
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Re: Where to find very basic FPGAs - Thomas Womack - 2004-11-11 14:06:00

In article
<3...@posting.google.com>,
weizbox <m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Sylvain Munaut <t...@reducespam.com> wrote in message
news:<41932cc1$0$20382$b...@news.skynet.be>...
>> What about the Avnet Virtex-4 kit ?
>> 
>>
http://www.em.avnet.com/evk/home/0,4534,CID%253D16863%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253DNoNav%25
26DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D4746%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DEVK,00.html
>> 
 
>> 299$ For a virtex 4 sounds ok. It's only 3x the price of the
>> spartan3 starter kit and has lots of stuff.

>That definetly has been the best priced thing ive seen so far. Thank
>you very much for that link, I beleive I will be getting that.

Do you have the spare $2400 for the software?  None of the free Xilinx tools
are aware of the existence of Virtex 4 yet.

Tom

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