On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
> 
> The G8 membership might distort the picture a bit.
> South of say Bolognia there is not much Technology anymore.
> A few Tomatoes and Olives plus lots of companies using the cheap
> labour for simple jobs.
> 
> Rene
> 

even if I agree on the overall picture, in south-italy there
are R&D and manufacturing plants of companies like ST-microelectronics,
Ericson and a few others. I think that there is a potential market for 
FPGA.

Tullio Grassi

Rene Tschaggelar <n...@none.none> wrote in
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> > 
> >>It is incredible that in response to an inquiry about
> >>technical workshops you found it appropriate to insult
> >>some countries (in fact whole regions!; even
> >>continents!!),
> > 
> > 
> > Insult?! I have simply said that some multinationals consider Italy
> > (from a *business* point of view) just like countries that are
> > objectively far less industrialized than us. Italy is in the G8, Libia
> > and Poland aren't even in the G20. When I say we "deserve" better, I
> > mean that we could have a lot more technological resources to invest in
> > FPGA world. This is a fact, not an offense.
> > 
> > I didn't mean to insult anyone! If I did so, I apologize to whoever
> > could have been offended. Probably the guilt is my bad english, I'm not
> > able to express all my thoughts exactly. :)
> > 
> 
> The G8 membership might distort the picture a bit.
> South of say Bolognia there is not much Technology anymore.
> A few Tomatoes and Olives plus lots of companies using the cheap
> labour for simple jobs.
> 
> Rene

Italy isn't completely out of the picture, I mean ST is in top 10 of
world semi comps which used to be Thomson + SGS + Mostek + Inmos etc,
still mostly Franco Italian UK, last I heard was still run by SGS guy
(Pastorio ??). And they even have design centers in Sicily last time I
heard.

Still if Xilinx doesn't show, the Altera guy said they would. I am a
bit surprised to hear UK isn't on the map, that can't be right.

johnjaksonATusaDOTcom

"Rene Tschaggelar"
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> The G8 membership might distort the picture a bit.

I agree. In fact, I don't think we will be members for much time again.

> South of say Bolognia there is not much Technology
> anymore.     ^^^^^^^^

"Bologna", I live at 20 km from there. :)

> A few Tomatoes and Olives plus lots of companies using the
> cheap
> labour for simple jobs.

You forgot pizza, mafia and mandolino! <g>

As someone has already told you, there are some exceptions. The south of
the Italy is less industrialized than the North, but still it is more
industrialized than some southern and midwest areas of the USA.

However, your consideration is sostantially correct. The main reason of
this decadence (that involves North as well as South, even if in
different ways) is due to the political choices made from the eighties
to the present time: constant reduction of funds for school and
research, cultural impoverishment driven by media, laws that support
cunning people, tax evasion and corruption (and I might add that things
are going to get even worse, with the current government infested by
thieves, xenophobes, separationists and so on).

In spite of this, however, we still have something to say; italians are
those who very often invent things (even if sometimes they do it outside
of Italy). FPGA/DSP neglect is more a "cultural" problem rather than a
technological one.

-- 
Lorenzo