Does anyone know the status of the promised
Altera MAX III CPLDs ?
These were supposed to roll out early in 2007, but they are
now not even registering on any Altera road-maps ?
  Has Altera pruned plans for this line ? - or has it gone back for 
're-work' ?
-jg

On Jul 11, 10:27 pm, Jim Granville
<no.s...@designtools.maps.co.nz>
wrote:
>   Does anyone know the status of the promised Altera MAX III CPLDs ?
> These were supposed to roll out early in 2007, but they are
> now not even registering on any Altera road-maps ?
>   Has Altera pruned plans for this line ? - or has it gone back for
> 're-work' ?
> -jg

Actually Altera's statement was that C-3 comes first (before APR07),
then S-3 and M-3 as last one..So it really looks like this schedule.
Also the status of M-3 was never firmly confirmed, so maybe it is even
cancelled what would be a pity of course.

surprisingly the current low cost leader is: A3P060 - it kills all
"cross-over FPGA-CPLD" machXO-MAX-II
A3/IGLOO 030 devices are not yet shipping, but when they will they
should kill every CPLD above 64/72
macrocell as well. (price wise at least)

but I also hope MAX-III comes, with nice packages and single voltage
option, and user flash mem, and...

antti

Antti wrote:

> On Jul 11, 10:27 pm, Jim Granville <no.s...@designtools.maps.co.nz>
> wrote:
> 
>>  Does anyone know the status of the promised Altera MAX III CPLDs ?
>>These were supposed to roll out early in 2007, but they are
>>now not even registering on any Altera road-maps ?
>>  Has Altera pruned plans for this line ? - or has it gone back for
>>'re-work' ?
>>-jg
> 
> 
> Actually Altera's statement was that C-3 comes first (before APR07),
> then S-3 and M-3 as last one..So it really looks like this schedule.
> Also the status of M-3 was never firmly confirmed, so maybe it is even
> cancelled what would be a pity of course.
> 
> surprisingly the current low cost leader is: A3P060 - it kills all
> "cross-over FPGA-CPLD" machXO-MAX-II

What price points are you seeing for the P060, and the equivalent
MachXO and MAX-II's ?

> A3/IGLOO 030 devices are not yet shipping, but when they will they
> should kill every CPLD above 64/72
> macrocell as well. (price wise at least)
> 
> but I also hope MAX-III comes, with nice packages and single voltage
> option, and user flash mem, and...

... SRAM that can be initialised, and buried OSC...

-jg

Jim,

Yes, Antti is correct.  Altera moved MaxIII behiind CycloneIII and 
StratixIII.

Regards,
Rob

"Jim Granville" <n...@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote in message 
news:46954ac5$1...@clear.net.nz...
>  Does anyone know the status of the promised Altera MAX III CPLDs ?
> These were supposed to roll out early in 2007, but they are
> now not even registering on any Altera road-maps ?
>  Has Altera pruned plans for this line ? - or has it gone back for 
> 're-work' ?
> -jg
> 

Rob wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Yes, Antti is correct.  Altera moved MaxIII behiind CycloneIII and 
> StratixIII.

  So I guess the key question is "How far behind ?"
I see CycloneIII has March data, and StratixIII has May data,
and we are now into July.... ?

-jg

MAX3 will not be this year.  Altera will be doing
MAX2Z (Zero Power) this 
year.

The release of C3 depends on package.  I'm to understand that some C3 
devices will be in production 3Q of this year, some more 4Q of this year, 
and I think the full line is supposed to be in prodcution by 1Q of '08.

I happen to be targeting a C3 device for a prodcut that Altera tells me will 
be ready 3Q of this year: EP3C10F256

I don't have any information on S3.




"Jim Granville" <n...@designtools.maps.co.nz> wrote in message 
news:4696a0a9$1...@clear.net.nz...
> Rob wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Yes, Antti is correct.  Altera moved MaxIII behiind CycloneIII and 
>> StratixIII.
>
>  So I guess the key question is "How far behind ?"
> I see CycloneIII has March data, and StratixIII has May data,
> and we are now into July.... ?
>
> -jg
>
>