Hi Pete,

p...@hotmail.com (Peter Sommerfeld) wrote in message
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> Hi Fredrik,
> 
> Are these numbers for a 32-bit Nios with hardware multiply?
> 
> -- Pete

No hardware multiply (used MSTEP), but 32-bit Nios. Design used was
one I used on some Nios traning with DMA and a CRC custom istruction
in it. Also some other goodies for trying out the various features of
the Nios Stratix board.
Cheers
Fredrik
> 
> f...@hotmail.com (Fredrik) wrote in message
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> > Hi Jim
> > Jim Granville <n...@designtools.co.nz> wrote in message
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> > > snip.
> > >   Anyone seen actual numbers or NIOS or NIOS II ?
> > > 
> > > -jg
> > I did a quick compile in Quartus2_ver4 with Stratix2 and Stratix same
> > Nios design only changed parts. Results in ALUT's compared to LE's is
> > 3202 ALUT (S2) and 4522LE's (S). Push button compile of design no
> > tweaking no logiclock.
> > Cheers
> > Fredrik

Jim Granville <n...@designtools.co.nz>
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> 
>   One thing that was not obvious in a quick trawl thru their info,
> was the relative NIOS sizes (Stratix / Stratix II).
>   You'd think that would make a good benchmark, but maybe it's still a 
> 'work in progress' as they tune the SW.
> 
>   Anyone seen actual numbers or NIOS or NIOS II ?
> 
> -jg

Jim,

Nios v3.2 is the final release of "classic" Nios. It is slated to be
released very soon, and will offer a couple of tweaks for Stratix II
support. For another data point: I ran the "minimal_32" example
through QII 4.0 for both device families and got 2011LEs (Stratix) vs.
1393ALUTs (Stratix II).

Again, Nios 3.2 will officially support Stratix II.

As for Nios II... I cannot comment on that yet, but stay tuned, its
worth waiting for.

Jesse Kempa
Altera Corp.
jkempa at altera dot com

Jesse Kempa wrote:
> Jim Granville <n...@designtools.co.nz> wrote in message
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> 
>>  One thing that was not obvious in a quick trawl thru their info,
>>was the relative NIOS sizes (Stratix / Stratix II).
>>  You'd think that would make a good benchmark, but maybe it's still a 
>>'work in progress' as they tune the SW.
>>
>>  Anyone seen actual numbers or NIOS or NIOS II ?
>>
>>-jg
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> Nios v3.2 is the final release of "classic" Nios. It is slated to be
> released very soon, and will offer a couple of tweaks for Stratix II
> support. For another data point: I ran the "minimal_32" example
> through QII 4.0 for both device families and got 2011LEs (Stratix) vs.
> 1393ALUTs (Stratix II).
> 
> Again, Nios 3.2 will officially support Stratix II.
> 
> As for Nios II... I cannot comment on that yet, but stay tuned, its
> worth waiting for.

Jesse,
  Thanks for that. We would expect NIOS II to be more 'tuned'
for Stratix II...

  Here's a question, (for when you can comment :)
  Will NIOS II have a variant that fits/runs on MAX II devices ?

-jg

> 
> Jesse,
>   Thanks for that. We would expect NIOS II to be more 'tuned'
> for Stratix II...
> 
>   Here's a question, (for when you can comment :)
>   Will NIOS II have a variant that fits/runs on MAX II devices ?
> 
> -jg

Hi Jim,

I'd love to address that right now but can't -- stay tuned for the MAX
II & Nios II launches. They will answer that question.

- Jesse