I prefer Active-HDL, it has all of the same
features as ModelSim and a much 
better GUI.  Plus it has better options for driving signals during a quick 
simulation run.  Although I did find a bug in a recent past version but it 
has been fixed in the current version.  The version of ModelSim at the time 
didn't have the same problem.


---Matthew Hicks


> Jon Elson wrote:
> 
>> ...  (I don't know why anyone would WANT to use ModelSim, it seems
>> insanely creaky and cumbersome, and I have to relearn the DAMN thing
>> every time I use it.) ...
>> 
> Jon,
> I've always rather liked modelsim (not its price!) - but I'm not
> defending it - I'm just curious if you know of any better solutions
> for
> simulation.
> -Jeff

On Sep 27, 5:55 pm, Matthew Hicks
<mdhic...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I prefer Active-HDL, it has all of the same features as ModelSim and a much
> better GUI.  Plus it has better options for driving signals during a quick
> simulation run.  Although I did find a bug in a recent past version but it
> has been fixed in the current version.  The version of ModelSim at the time
> didn't have the same problem.

While we are off topic, I find all the GUI based simulators unbearable
slow to use. Icarus Verilog is free, works the same on Mac OSX, Linux,
and Windows, and integrates perfectly into a Makefile driven work
flow.

I can't believe the original posters childish rant could span such a
long thread! It must be a slow week. In my experience both A and X are
fine companies though neither is perfect.

Tommy

Tommy Thorn <t...@gmail.com>
writes:

> On Sep 27, 5:55 pm, Matthew Hicks <mdhic...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> I prefer Active-HDL, it has all of the same features as ModelSim and a much
>> better GUI.  Plus it has better options for driving signals during a quick
>> simulation run.  Although I did find a bug in a recent past version but it
>> has been fixed in the current version.  The version of ModelSim at the time
>> didn't have the same problem.
>
> While we are off topic, I find all the GUI based simulators unbearable
> slow to use. Icarus Verilog is free, works the same on Mac OSX, Linux,
> and Windows, and integrates perfectly into a Makefile driven work
> flow.

Modelsim is hardly tied to a GUI - I use a makefile driven flow
(Modelsim even has a command for making a makefile!), and often use
the simulator in "text-mode" as well.

Cheers,
Martin

-- 
m...@trw.com 
TRW Conekt - Consultancy in Engineering, Knowledge and Technology
http://www.conekt.net/electronics.html

Matthew Hicks wrote:
> I prefer Active-HDL, it has all of the same features as ModelSim and a 
> much better GUI.  Plus it has better options for driving signals during 
> a quick simulation run.  Although I did find a bug in a recent past 
> version but it has been fixed in the current version.  The version of 
> ModelSim at the time didn't have the same problem.
Yes, these sound like many of the things I find cumbersome in ModelSim.
I'll have to try out this Active-HDL.  Thanks!

Jon