Big Boy wrote:
> I'm still new in FPGA design, and learning Verilog, and the EDA tools
> (Xilinx ISE, ModelSim, ...).
>
> I have a problem simulating Post-Map Simulation Model with ISE 6.3.
>
> I have a verilog project which consist of 2 files (a simple module
and
> a test bench).
>
> My module file contain a module with ports defined as
>
> module mux4_to_1(out, i0, i1, i2, i3, s1, s0);
>
> And, from the testbench file, I instantiate mux4_to_1 as
>
> mux4_to_1 mymux(OUTPUT, IN0, IN1, IN2, IN3, S1, S0);
>
> The sources are correct, and lower level of simulations work
> correctly. ISE generate the appropriate model files (.v, ...) and
> call the simulator (ModelSim). However, when I come to simulate Post
> Map, ISE generate the post map simulation model, and call ModelSim,
> but ModelSim complains about ports errors.
>
> Looking at the generated files, I clearly see the problem. The ports
> are inverted.
>
> Here are the generated models 'module' declarations:
>
> Post-Translate verilog source:
> module mux4_to_1 (
> out, i0, i1, i2, i3, s0, s1
> );
>
> Post-Map verilog source:
> module mux4_to_1 (
> s1, s0, i3, i2, i1, i0, out
> );
>
> Here, you see that the ports list is inverted. And since the module
is
> instantiated by passing port list by order, the ports get
> miss-connected.
>
> Anybody having this problem, and know what I can do (appart from
> specifying ports by name)?
>
> Thanks

I'd agree that this is a bug, but it should only show up when
you use location to instantiate the top level module, not modules
within your FPGA design.  The "bug" is also evident in version 6.1i,
but the actual behavior is not to reverse the port list, but rather
to invert the order of port definitions to create the post map
port list.  In this case a work-around is to define your ports in
the reverse order of the original port list like:

 module mux4_to_1 (
 out, i0, i1, i2, i3, s0, s1
 );

// reverse order of port list:
input s1;
input s0;
input i3;
input i2;
input i1;
input i0;
output out;

// code

endmodule

This should cause the post-map port order to remain the same as the
source module.

Thanks berty, but I already did mentio

> Anybody having this problem, and know what I can do (appart fro
specifying ports by name)

That's what I'm doing now, but it's just that I'm following a tutoria
and re-typing the examples, but the examples mostly use un-name
parameters

I guess though that it could be a good habit to start passin
parameters by name from the start of the learning process..

Instead of instantiating using location use a direct connecting meaning
instead of let say

andgate andgate (o,a,b);

use

andgate anggate (.o(o), .a(a), .b(b));

This way the order is not important any more.

The risk of using location is even higher as it can give misleading
result. Assume for example that two input got swaped ...

Have fun

Anyone

I'm still new in FPGA design, and learning Verilog, and the EDA tool
(Xilinx ISE, ModelSim, ...)

I have a problem simulating Post-Map Simulation Model with ISE 6.3.

I have a verilog project which consist of 2 files (a simple module an
a test bench).

My module file contain a module with ports defined as

module mux4_to_1(out, i0, i1, i2, i3, s1, s0);

And, from the testbench file, I instantiate mux4_to_1 as

mux4_to_1 mymux(OUTPUT, IN0, IN1, IN2, IN3, S1, S0);

The sources are correct, and lower level of simulations wor
correctly. ISE generate the appropriate model files (.v, ...) an
call the simulator (ModelSim). However, when I come to simulate Pos
Map, ISE generate the post map simulation model, and call ModelSim
but ModelSim complains about ports errors.

Looking at the generated files, I clearly see the problem. The port
are inverted.

Here are the generated models 'module' declarations:

Post-Translate verilog source:
module mux4_to_1 (
out, i0, i1, i2, i3, s0, s1
);

Post-Map verilog source:
module mux4_to_1 (
s1, s0, i3, i2, i1, i0, out
);

Here, you see that the ports list is inverted. And since the module i
instantiated by passing port list by order, the ports ge
miss-connected.

Anybody having this problem, and know what I can do (appart fro
specifying ports by name)?

Thank