On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:19 +0200, Antti Lukats wrote:

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> so Altera has been simple BS the customers - or maybe there is a secret
> place for MAX2 IEEE1532 information ???

Which is worse?  If Altera is just promoting BS and market-spin to their
customers they should they don't respect their customers.  If Altera
goes to the effort of implementing and supporting IEEE1532 and hide it
from their customers they show that they don't respect their customers.
At least the little guys who don't have the contacts and big money to
suddenly make the data appear (if that is indeed the case--I have no
idea).

Hmmm, the conclusion is the same in both instances.

That said, this could equally be applied to just about every
multi-national known to mankind.

James.

hi

Altera is the one that likes to claim many things, one of those was that
Altera was the first PLD vendor supporing IEEE 1532

That was new Loong time ago already,  as of today, as of Altera web info:

IEEE1532 enabled devices are:

*MAX7k
*EPC8

thats about it.

in MAX2 datasheet there is mere notice that the ISC instruction codes for
MAX2 ieee1532 programming will be published on altera website (as part of
downloadable BSDL files)

checked today, the BSDL files are available but they do not support IEEE1532

so Altera has been simple BS the customers - or maybe there is a secret
place for MAX2 IEEE1532 information ???

Antti