On Oct 16, 10:08=A0am, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:
> rickman skrev:
>
> > On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:
> >> Peter Alfke skrev:
>
> >>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Rick
> >>>> PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 1010=
04,
> >>>> at least in my code.
> >>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
> >> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
> >> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
> >> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
>
> > Not in my lifetime! =A0Six digits works just fine for my needs. =A0I do=
n't
> > expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.
>
> It is also a matter of clarity.
> 101010 is clearly 10 October 2010.
> What is 111210?
> =A0 Is it:
> =A0 Dec 11, 2010 ?
> =A0 Dec 10, 2012 ?
>
> The standard is there to remove such abiguity.
> 2010-11-12 is clear.
> (Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)
"Noone" meaning, you know what it means so it doesn't matter if anyone
else is confused. If anyone has not seen your system, it is no more
clear than any other. My system is for the computer to read, the user
is secondary. If it needs to be understood by the user, it is
documented. That removes all doubt.
> >> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
> >> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
> >> the number unique.
>
> >> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
> >> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
>
> > Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food
> > again. ;-)
>
> >> The system copes with that, since your number changes to
> >> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
> >> and many/most applications does not allow
> >> you to feed in the "+" sign.
>
> > So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age?
>
> No, just ignorance.
I guess this didn't translate into Swedish very well... it was a
joke.
Rick
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●October 16, 20102010-10-16
rickman skrev:
> On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:
>> Peter Alfke skrev:
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Rick
>>>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
>>>> at least in my code.
>>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
>> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
>> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
>> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
>
> Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't
> expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.
It is also a matter of clarity.
101010 is clearly 10 October 2010.
What is 111210?
Is it:
Dec 11, 2010 ?
Dec 10, 2012 ?
The standard is there to remove such abiguity.
2010-11-12 is clear.
(Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)
>
>
>> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
>> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
>> the number unique.
>>
>> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
>> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
>
> Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food
> again. ;-)
>
>
>> The system copes with that, since your number changes to
>> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
>> and many/most applications does not allow
>> you to feed in the "+" sign.
>
> So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age?
>
No, just ignorance.
> Rick
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●October 16, 20102010-10-16
rickman skrev:
> On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:
>> Peter Alfke skrev:
>>
>>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Rick
>>>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
>>>> at least in my code.
>>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
>> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
>> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
>> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
>
> Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't
> expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.
It is also a matter of clarity.
101010 is clearly 10 October 2010.
What is 111210?
Is it:
Dec 11, 2010 ?
Dec 10, 2012 ?
The standard is there to remove such abiguity.
2010-11-12 is clear.
(Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)
>
>
>> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
>> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
>> the number unique.
>>
>> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
>> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
>
> Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food
> again. ;-)
>
>
>> The system copes with that, since your number changes to
>> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
>> and many/most applications does not allow
>> you to feed in the "+" sign.
>
> So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age?
>
No, just ignorance.
> Rick
Reply by rickman●October 12, 20102010-10-12
On Oct 9, 12:55=A0pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:
> Peter Alfke skrev:
>
> > On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Rick
>
> >> PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004=
,
> >> at least in my code.
>
> > Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
>
> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't
expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.
> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
> the number unique.
>
> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food
again. ;-)
> The system copes with that, since your number changes to
> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
> and many/most applications does not allow
> you to feed in the "+" sign.
So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age?
Rick
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●October 9, 20102010-10-09
Peter Alfke skrev:
> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
>> at least in my code.
>
> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
"10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
"YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
the number unique.
We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
The system copes with that, since your number changes to
"YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
and many/most applications does not allow
you to feed in the "+" sign.
> It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the
> way we write numbers normally.
> But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world.
> Peter
>
Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson
Reply by Ulf Samuelsson●October 9, 20102010-10-09
Peter Alfke skrev:
> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
>> at least in my code.
>
> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601).
You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability.
"10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.
All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number:
"YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes
the number unique.
We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff
after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.
The system copes with that, since your number changes to
"YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used
and many/most applications does not allow
you to feed in the "+" sign.
> It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the
> way we write numbers normally.
> But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world.
> Peter
>
Best Regards
Ulf Samuelsson
Reply by Morten Leikvoll●October 5, 20102010-10-05
"Peter Alfke" <alfke@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>There are many habits one has to change when one moves over the big pond:
> months/days, points/commas, billions/ milliards, banking methods,driving
> rules, etc
>Makes life interesting...
And expensive.. Im thinking of technology 'bleepers'... :)
Reply by Peter Alfke●October 5, 20102010-10-05
On Oct 4, 7:27=A0pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Peter Alfke
>
> At least the US knows how to use a decimal POINT! =A0Who came up with
> the decimal comma???
>
> Rick
>
In defense of the decimal comma:
Graphically, the comma is a much more visible delimiter than the
point.
The difference between 25 and 2.5 can be so tiny (in certain
typefaces) that I have used a magnifying glass to find out.
There are many habits one has to change when one moves over the big
pond:
months/days, points/commas, billions/ milliards, banking methods,
driving rules, etc
Makes life interesting...
Peter
Reply by rickman●October 5, 20102010-10-05
On Oct 4, 10:36=A0pm, Peter Alfke <al...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Oct 4, 7:27=A0pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rick
>
> > PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
> > at least in my code.
>
> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
> It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the
> way we write numbers normally.
> But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world.
> Peter
It allows file names to be sorted by date and many other similar
sorts.
Rick
Reply by Peter Alfke●October 4, 20102010-10-04
On Oct 4, 7:27=A0pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Rick
>
> PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004,
> at least in my code.
Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.
It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the
way we write numbers normally.
But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world.
Peter