Nios II really available ?

Has anybody actually received updates to their Quartus and Nios toolkits
to support Nios II ?

Geoffrey

geoffrey brown <geoffrey.DeLeTebrown@acm.orgDeLeTe> wrote in message news:<jjixc.16271$4S5.13174@attbi_s52>...
> Has anybody actually received updates to their Quartus and Nios toolkits
> to support Nios II ?
> 
> Geoffrey

Hi Geoffrey,

The Nios II development kits for Cyclone and Stratix begin shipping
next week (week of June 14). Updates to Nios subscribers ship the
following week. If you have an urgent need to get the update sooner,
please email me.

Best Regards,

Bob

Bob Garrett
Altera 
Product Marketing Manager, Nios

Bob Garrett wrote:
> The Nios II development kits for Cyclone and Stratix begin shipping
> next week (week of June 14). Updates to Nios subscribers ship the
> following week. If you have an urgent need to get the update sooner,
> please email me.
> 
> Bob Garrett
> Altera 
> Product Marketing Manager, Nios

Any news on when a Stratix-II Dev kit will be available?

Tommy

We have highlighted that Stratix II devices will ship to customers in
July. Stratix II checkout and characterization is proceeding ahead of
schedule. Stratix II Development Kits are on track to ship later in
Q3.
Dave Greenfield
Altera Product Marketing

> 
> Any news on when a Stratix-II Dev kit will be available?
> 
> Tommy

There is no difference in Stratix and Stratix II anyway. So what does
it matter? If there is a difference, other than Altera finally doing a
full copy of the Virtex II structure, I'd be happy to hear about it.

There is no new innovation in Stratix II. It's just a shrink of
Stratix. A bit faster and denser. That's it. Stratix II is same as
Stratix.

Hey, what happened to the vaunted Terminator technology? It got
stripped out of Stratix. I see it is supposed to work in Stratix II
again. Serial resistor only. I guess we will find out if it does or
not after several customers find out if it meets the spec. Just like
in Stratix.


davidg@altera.com (Dave Greenfield) wrote in message news:<5c156a0b.0406101600.61f08aa9@posting.google.com>...
> We have highlighted that Stratix II devices will ship to customers in
> July. Stratix II checkout and characterization is proceeding ahead of
> schedule. Stratix II Development Kits are on track to ship later in
> Q3.
> Dave Greenfield
> Altera Product Marketing
> 
> > 
> > Any news on when a Stratix-II Dev kit will be available?
> > 
> > Tommy

"Stifler" <seannstifler69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bf780a06.0406102246.528d26e4@posting.google.com...
> There is no difference in Stratix and Stratix II anyway. So what does
> it matter? If there is a difference, other than Altera finally doing a
> full copy of the Virtex II structure, I'd be happy to hear about it.
>
> There is no new innovation in Stratix II. It's just a shrink of
> Stratix. A bit faster and denser. That's it. Stratix II is same as
> Stratix.
>

You haven't looked at any information on the Stratix II, have you?  They use
a completely different type of basic logic element (6 input LUTs with 2
outputs, rather than the standard 4 input, 1 output LUT).  Ultimately, the
result is faster and denser, but it is hardly "just" a shrink of the
Stratix.  And of course, there is the usual progress you'd expect for a new
generation of chips - more memory, faster I/O, etc., which is useful but not
as "innovative" as the new logic structure.


> Hey, what happened to the vaunted Terminator technology? It got
> stripped out of Stratix. I see it is supposed to work in Stratix II
> again. Serial resistor only. I guess we will find out if it does or
> not after several customers find out if it meets the spec. Just like
> in Stratix.
>
>
> davidg@altera.com (Dave Greenfield) wrote in message
news:<5c156a0b.0406101600.61f08aa9@posting.google.com>...
> > We have highlighted that Stratix II devices will ship to customers in
> > July. Stratix II checkout and characterization is proceeding ahead of
> > schedule. Stratix II Development Kits are on track to ship later in
> > Q3.
> > Dave Greenfield
> > Altera Product Marketing
> >
> > >
> > > Any news on when a Stratix-II Dev kit will be available?
> > >
> > > Tommy