Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote:> > > Stephen Williams wrote: > >> Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote: >> >>> Sorry - typo - >>> >>> There is NO information that allows for customized cable use. >>> >>> The cable is for use only with Xilinx-supplied applications >> >> >> >> And the Xilinx applications with ISE 6.1i cannot use it under >> Linux. Correct? >> >> > > No. Applications like iMPACT and ChipScope should be able to use the > cables under LinuxEven if this is iMPACT bundled with ISE *6.1i*? I was under the impression (based on APP notes and the like) that under Linux, iMPACT starts supporing the PCIV cable at ISE 6.2. Certainly, when I start impact, the radio button for Parallel Cable IV is grayed out. Are you saying that when the cable arrives, I'll be able to plug it in, install the Linux driver, and un-gray the selection? -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at icarus.com But I have promises to keep, http://www.icarus.com and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."
Xilinx ParallelCable IV vs. Linux
Started by ●June 11, 2004
Reply by ●June 14, 20042004-06-14
Reply by ●June 15, 20042004-06-15
Stephen Williams wrote:> Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote: > >> >> >> Stephen Williams wrote: >> >>> Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry - typo - >>>> >>>> There is NO information that allows for customized cable use. >>>> >>>> The cable is for use only with Xilinx-supplied applications >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> And the Xilinx applications with ISE 6.1i cannot use it under >>> Linux. Correct? >>> >>> >> >> No. Applications like iMPACT and ChipScope should be able to use the >> cables under Linux > > > Even if this is iMPACT bundled with ISE *6.1i*? I was under the > impression (based on APP notes and the like) that under Linux, > iMPACT starts supporing the PCIV cable at ISE 6.2. Certainly, when > I start impact, the radio button for Parallel Cable IV is grayed > out. Are you saying that when the cable arrives, I'll be able to > plug it in, install the Linux driver, and un-gray the selection?You know sometimes I wonder just how awake I am... Yes, Linux usage of the parallel cable was first supported in 6.2i thus all statements about Xilinx application support refer to release 6.2i and later. This means that if you are unable to upgrade to 6.2i or later and need to use the parallel cable and Linux then you are stuck. The (slower) MultiLINX cable is your only download option on Linux previous to 6.2i Sorry for all the confusion but I think we have it straightened out now.> >
Reply by ●June 16, 20042004-06-16
Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote:>>> Stephen Williams wrote:>> Even if this is iMPACT bundled with ISE *6.1i*? I was under the >> impression (based on APP notes and the like) that under Linux, >> iMPACT starts supporing the PCIV cable at ISE 6.2. Certainly, when >> I start impact, the radio button for Parallel Cable IV is grayed >> out. Are you saying that when the cable arrives, I'll be able to >> plug it in, install the Linux driver, and un-gray the selection? > > > You know sometimes I wonder just how awake I am... > Yes, Linux usage of the parallel cable was first supported in 6.2i thus > all statements about Xilinx application support refer to release 6.2i > and later. > This means that if you are unable to upgrade to 6.2i or later and need > to use the parallel cable and Linux then you are stuck. > The (slower) MultiLINX cable is your only download option on Linux > previous to 6.2iI use ISE Foundation in support of my Icarus Verilog work. I use it to make sure Icarus Verilog simulations can support the various libraries shipped with Xilinx products, and I also use the back end tools to help me validate the FPGA code generator. (I generate EDIF files that I feed to map/par and FPGAEdit.) I have various Xilinx based boards that are a product of day-job, and also a few other demo boards that people are likely to use while playing with Icarus Verilog. (A Digilent board, a Wallace JTAG board, an in-house PPC based board, another in-house board w/ Virtex and ACE...) Since this is a open source (read: GPL, free) project, I can't really afford the $2000+ of ISE. In fact, my current ISE 6.1i is a generous contribution from your employer. So yes, I'm stuck. But it's not holding me up. -- Steve Williams "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. steve at icarus.com But I have promises to keep, http://www.icarus.com and lines to code before I sleep, http://www.picturel.com And lines to code before I sleep."
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
Stephen Williams wrote:> > Does anybody know if the Xilinx Paralel cable IV cable can > be made to work under Linux w/ ISE 6.1i.03? And to make it > even more interesting, my Linux is AMD64, will the driver work > at all on this system? > > > .... and while we're on the subject, the Linux driver source is > itself is pretty basic. Is there programming informatino for the > cable that one can use to write custom software to drive the > device.Stephen, not sure if this will help: I have faced the same problem - not being able to program Xilinx Devices using Xilinx Software and Xilinx hardware under linux. So I wrote a small dumb program that can take a bit stream and directly upload it to an FPGA. You can find it here: http://www.asics.ws/tools/ljp.c.gz This works with both Parallel Cable 3 and 4. Regards, rudi ======================================================== ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:31:18 -0700, Stephen Williams <spamtrap@icarus.com> wrote:> >Does anybody know if the Xilinx Paralel cable IV cable can >be made to work under Linux w/ ISE 6.1i.03? And to make it >even more interesting, my Linux is AMD64, will the driver work >at all on this system? > > >.... and while we're on the subject, the Linux driver source is >itself is pretty basic. Is there programming informatino for the >cable that one can use to write custom software to drive the >device.I am not sure how relevant this is, but there is some source code and other notes in the FAQ: "Downloading a Bitstream under Linux" Here's the URL http://www.fpga-faq.com/FAQ_Pages/0028_Downloading_a_Bitstream_under_Linux.htm =================== Philip Freidin philip.freidin@fpga-faq.com Host for WWW.FPGA-FAQ.COM
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** On a sunny day (Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:29:34 +0700) it happened Rudolf Usselmann <russelmann@hotmail.com> wrote in <car9vf$tp5$1@nobel.pacific.net.sg>:>Stephen Williams wrote: > >> >> Does anybody know if the Xilinx Paralel cable IV cable can >> be made to work under Linux w/ ISE 6.1i.03? And to make it >> even more interesting, my Linux is AMD64, will the driver work >> at all on this system? >> >> >> .... and while we're on the subject, the Linux driver source is >> itself is pretty basic. Is there programming informatino for the >> cable that one can use to write custom software to drive the >> device. > > >Stephen, > >not sure if this will help: > >I have faced the same problem - not being able to program >Xilinx Devices using Xilinx Software and Xilinx hardware >under linux. So I wrote a small dumb program that can take >a bit stream and directly upload it to an FPGA. > >You can find it here: http://www.asics.ws/tools/ljp.c.gz > >This works with both Parallel Cable 3 and 4. > >Regards, >rudiI get: claim parport: Invalid argument I am using kernel 2.4.25. Any ideas? This comes from: if (ioctl(d, PPCLAIM)) err(-1, "claim parport"); Nevertheless interesting code. Regards JP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** On a sunny day (Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:39:28 GMT) it happened Philip Freidin <philip@fliptronics.com> wrote in <rhb2d0p905uo73cmostsda9j6nf16ogu2v@4ax.com>:>On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:31:18 -0700, Stephen Williams <spamtrap@icarus.com> wrote: >> >>Does anybody know if the Xilinx Paralel cable IV cable can >>be made to work under Linux w/ ISE 6.1i.03? And to make it >>even more interesting, my Linux is AMD64, will the driver work >>at all on this system? >> >> >>.... and while we're on the subject, the Linux driver source is >>itself is pretty basic. Is there programming informatino for the >>cable that one can use to write custom software to drive the >>device. > >I am not sure how relevant this is, but there is some source code >and other notes in the FAQ: "Downloading a Bitstream under Linux" >Here's the URL > > http://www.fpga-faq.com/FAQ_Pages/0028_Downloading_a_Bitstream_under_Linux.htmI have taken that source, added a makefile, and added a way to add the bit filename in the command line, also added some error checking. http://ip51cf87c4.direct-adsl.nl/panteltje/download/impact-fl-0.1.tgz Untar with tar -zxvf impact-fl-0.1.tgz JP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote: : >rudi : I get: : claim parport: Invalid argument : I am using kernel 2.4.25. : Any ideas? This comes from: : if (ioctl(d, PPCLAIM)) err(-1, "claim parport"); : Nevertheless interesting code. : Regards Do you have the ppdev kernel module loaded? If no, do it. If yes, do you have any other device claiming the papalle port loaded (e.g. a parallel port CDROM or such). If yes, unload. Try again. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●June 17, 20042004-06-17
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** On a sunny day (Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:44:17 +0000 (UTC)) it happened Uwe Bonnes <bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote in <cashp1$6vi$1@news.tu-darmstadt.de>:>Do you have the ppdev kernel module loaded? If no, do it. If yes, do you >have any other device claiming the papalle port loaded (e.g. a parallel >port CDROM or such). If yes, unload. Try again. > >ByeDid some testing, there is no module named ppdev. panteltje:~# lsmod | grep p parport_pc 14192 1 (autoclean) lp 6592 0 (autoclean) parport 24992 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] Removing and insmodding any of these does make no difference, except now I get: open parport: No such device Of cause I have /dev/parport0 etc... Maybe I should not be using /dev/parport? JP -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** http://www.usenet.com Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Reply by ●June 21, 20042004-06-21
Stephen Williams wrote:> Neil Glenn Jacobson wrote: > >>>> Stephen Williams wrote: > > >>> Even if this is iMPACT bundled with ISE *6.1i*? I was under the >>> impression (based on APP notes and the like) that under Linux, >>> iMPACT starts supporing the PCIV cable at ISE 6.2. Certainly, when >>> I start impact, the radio button for Parallel Cable IV is grayed >>> out. Are you saying that when the cable arrives, I'll be able to >>> plug it in, install the Linux driver, and un-gray the selection? >> >> >> >> You know sometimes I wonder just how awake I am... >> Yes, Linux usage of the parallel cable was first supported in 6.2i >> thus all statements about Xilinx application support refer to release >> 6.2i and later. >> This means that if you are unable to upgrade to 6.2i or later and need >> to use the parallel cable and Linux then you are stuck. >> The (slower) MultiLINX cable is your only download option on Linux >> previous to 6.2i > > > I use ISE Foundation in support of my Icarus Verilog work. I use > it to make sure Icarus Verilog simulations can support the various > libraries shipped with Xilinx products, and I also use the back end > tools to help me validate the FPGA code generator. (I generate EDIF > files that I feed to map/par and FPGAEdit.) > > I have various Xilinx based boards that are a product of day-job, > and also a few other demo boards that people are likely to use while > playing with Icarus Verilog. (A Digilent board, a Wallace JTAG board, > an in-house PPC based board, another in-house board w/ Virtex and ACE...) > > Since this is a open source (read: GPL, free) project, I can't really > afford the $2000+ of ISE. In fact, my current ISE 6.1i is a generous > contribution from your employer. > > So yes, I'm stuck. But it's not holding me up. > >If you just want to download, you can use the free WebPACK version of iMPACT. This would include the latest software and be backward compatible with bitstreams generated from any version of ISE ou have. So you are not actually stuck.
