>Math Skills = >Engineer ?

Does better math skills really equal a better engineer in the future?

defiantly.. all that math you try to forget at school will suddenly become
useful when you start calculating track impedance and capacitor reactance

Simon

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> Does better math skills really equal a better engineer in the future?

No, although it helps

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not exactly equal...but you will impress the client when you give the
frequency of a
timing path of 14.4ns without using a calculator...:)

Kelvin






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> not exactly equal...but you will impress the client when you give the
> frequency of a
> timing path of 14.4ns without using a calculator...:)
>
> Kelvin
>

That's not maths skill, that's arithmetic skill.

For any technical profession you need to be fast and reliable at basic
arithmetic - if you have difficulty working out how a 4.7uF capacitor
compares to a 4700nF capacitor, you will have problems.  But no one is going
to blame you for using a calculator to multiply it by a 33k resistance.

Maths skill is something else - it is about logical thinking, reasoning, and
analysis.  The skill is in the ability to work with symbolic
representations, to understand, manipulate and interprete such systems, with
a care for the details and an attention to all special cases, while still
being able to sort the relevant from the irrelevant.  In short, maths is
most important as training for your mind (although obviously particular
branches of maths are directly relevant to particular branches of
engineering).

It's not enough on its own, but if you are not good at maths, or don't study
enough maths, then you will have great difficulty being a good engineer
(except perhaps a social engineer...).

it's true...

but it's no big deal to calculate 47X33 anyway...

arithmetic is part of mathematics...every engineer needs to be proficient in
math...


Kelvin





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>
> "Kelvin" <student@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:40ce99dc@news.starhub.net.sg...
> > not exactly equal...but you will impress the client when you give the
> > frequency of a
> > timing path of 14.4ns without using a calculator...:)
> >
> > Kelvin
> >
>
> That's not maths skill, that's arithmetic skill.
>
> For any technical profession you need to be fast and reliable at basic
> arithmetic - if you have difficulty working out how a 4.7uF capacitor
> compares to a 4700nF capacitor, you will have problems.  But no one is
going
> to blame you for using a calculator to multiply it by a 33k resistance.
>
> Maths skill is something else - it is about logical thinking, reasoning,
and
> analysis.  The skill is in the ability to work with symbolic
> representations, to understand, manipulate and interprete such systems,
with
> a care for the details and an attention to all special cases, while still
> being able to sort the relevant from the irrelevant.  In short, maths is
> most important as training for your mind (although obviously particular
> branches of maths are directly relevant to particular branches of
> engineering).
>
> It's not enough on its own, but if you are not good at maths, or don't
study
> enough maths, then you will have great difficulty being a good engineer
> (except perhaps a social engineer...).
>
>
>

"Kelvin" <student@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> it's true...
>
> but it's no big deal to calculate 47X33 anyway...
>
> arithmetic is part of mathematics...every engineer needs to be proficient
in
> math...
>
> Kelvin
>

Arithmetic is to maths what letters are to English, or perhaps what
handwriting is to essay-writing - you can get a computer to help with the
larger stuff as long as you understand what you are doing, but it's going to
be a pain if you need a computer for every little note, and being able to
write well does not make you a good essay writer.

There are three sorts of mathematicians - those who can count, and those who
can't.

There are 10 sorts of software engineers - those that understand binary, and
those who don't.

Anyway, we agree that an engineer needs to be good at maths.

David

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>
>
>
> "David Brown" <david@no.westcontrol.spam.com> wrote in message
> news:cam9d4$npo$1@news.netpower.no...
> >
> > "Kelvin" <student@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:40ce99dc@news.starhub.net.sg...
> > > not exactly equal...but you will impress the client when you give the
> > > frequency of a
> > > timing path of 14.4ns without using a calculator...:)
> > >
> > > Kelvin
> > >
> >
> > That's not maths skill, that's arithmetic skill.
> >
> > For any technical profession you need to be fast and reliable at basic
> > arithmetic - if you have difficulty working out how a 4.7uF capacitor
> > compares to a 4700nF capacitor, you will have problems.  But no one is
> going
> > to blame you for using a calculator to multiply it by a 33k resistance.
> >
> > Maths skill is something else - it is about logical thinking, reasoning,
> and
> > analysis.  The skill is in the ability to work with symbolic
> > representations, to understand, manipulate and interprete such systems,
> with
> > a care for the details and an attention to all special cases, while
still
> > being able to sort the relevant from the irrelevant.  In short, maths is
> > most important as training for your mind (although obviously particular
> > branches of maths are directly relevant to particular branches of
> > engineering).
> >
> > It's not enough on its own, but if you are not good at maths, or don't
> study
> > enough maths, then you will have great difficulty being a good engineer
> > (except perhaps a social engineer...).
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Engineer math skill is what remains after you forget everything in school, and what's gain from works.

Kelvin <student@nowhere.com> wrote:
: it's true...

: but it's no big deal to calculate 47X33 anyway...

Well, start with 50X30 , we're engineers :-) 


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How about digital logic design engineer? What kind of math required other
than basic arithmetic? And don't they need a lot less math than say an RF
engineer?

Hendra