Just got this from production: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg from previously posted layout... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock from the uZed. Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the Zed lit up and ran Linux. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
my first microZed board
Started by ●January 17, 2014
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On a sunny day (Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:19:31 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in <jv6jd9p3qc1sievj88ar7325r1epq46uu0@4ax.com>:> > >Just got this from production: > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg > >from previously posted layout... > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg > > >This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping >the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer >directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock >from the uZed. > >Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >Zed lit up and ran Linux.What does 'Z' do that a Raspbery Pi cannot?
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:19:31 -0800, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:> > >Just got this from production: > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg > >from previously posted layout... > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg > > >This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping >the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer >directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock >from the uZed. > >Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >Zed lit up and ran Linux.Very nice! Is there stuff under the uZed as well? I calculated that (for us anyway) the assembly cost in small quantities on the uZed would exceed the price, so it's kind of a no-brainer if it will do the job. Best regards, --sp
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 21:31:01 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:>On a sunny day (Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:19:31 -0800) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in ><jv6jd9p3qc1sievj88ar7325r1epq46uu0@4ax.com>: > >> >> >>Just got this from production: >> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg >> >>from previously posted layout... >> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg >> >> >>This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping >>the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer >>directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock >>from the uZed. >> >>Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >>Zed lit up and ran Linux. > >What does 'Z' do that a Raspbery Pi cannot?Integrate two 600 MHz ARM cores and a screaming-fast FPGA onto one chip. And the Zed has Ethernet, flash, DRAM, USB, power supplies, all that stuff done and tested. It's a great way to do gear that will be built in fairly small quantities. This app will do a lot of signal processing in the FPGA at 48 M samples/second. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:46:15 -0500, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:>On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:19:31 -0800, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote: > >> >> >>Just got this from production: >> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg >> >>from previously posted layout... >> >>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg >> >> >>This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping >>the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer >>directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock >>from the uZed. >> >>Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >>Zed lit up and ran Linux. > >Very nice!It's not nice, it's beautiful.> >Is there stuff under the uZed as well?No, just three rotary hex switches that set the IP address. The customer insisted on that. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_side.jpg Life would be great without customers.> >I calculated that (for us anyway) the assembly cost in small >quantities on the uZed would exceed the price, so it's kind of a >no-brainer if it will do the job.All that DDRx ram and microSim and Ethernet and stuff is a nuisance to design and test. For a tad under $200, it's a bargain. The Xilinx software is, as usual, a horror story, but it looks like we have things working now, namely a Linux app talking to the FPGA talking to pins on the interface connectors. As far as I know, there is *no such* reference design! -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On a sunny day (Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:50:46 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in <559jd9pie6ngd8l1ch1gp47von4771prtl@4ax.com>:>>>Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >>>Zed lit up and ran Linux. >> >>What does 'Z' do that a Raspbery Pi cannot? > >Integrate two 600 MHz ARM cores and a screaming-fast FPGA onto one >chip. And the Zed has Ethernet, flash, DRAM, USB, power supplies, all >that stuff done and tested. It's a great way to do gear that will be >built in fairly small quantities.Well rapsi has that, but only one core.>This app will do a lot of signal processing in the FPGA at 48 M >samples/second.http://www.bugblat.com/products/pif/ So all together with tools about 75 $; raspi + FPGA board. 2 rapsis ... makes... 3 rapsis makes... any combination thereof. But rapsi also has HD HDMI out, and audio out, etc... That HDMI out is cool, as you can plug it into almost any modern monitor and make nice user friendly presentations. Something that is not so simple or needs extra hardware on other platforms. My rapsi even plays HD movies... Just imagine, when it starts up you can make it play the Highland background with cows grazing. with greener grass...
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
In comp.arch.fpga John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:> Just got this from production:> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpgSN #1 hand written on Tape. Nice ! -- Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On 17/01/14 22:06, Jan Panteltje wrote:> On a sunny day (Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:50:46 -0800) it happened John Larkin > <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in > <559jd9pie6ngd8l1ch1gp47von4771prtl@4ax.com>: > >>>> Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >>>> Zed lit up and ran Linux. >>> >>> What does 'Z' do that a Raspbery Pi cannot? >> >> Integrate two 600 MHz ARM cores and a screaming-fast FPGA onto one >> chip. And the Zed has Ethernet, flash, DRAM, USB, power supplies, all >> that stuff done and tested. It's a great way to do gear that will be >> built in fairly small quantities. > > Well rapsi has that, but only one core. > > >> This app will do a lot of signal processing in the FPGA at 48 M >> samples/second. > > > http://www.bugblat.com/products/pif/ > So all together with tools about 75 $; raspi + FPGA board. > > 2 rapsis ... makes... > 3 rapsis makes... > > any combination thereof. > > But rapsi also has HD HDMI out, and audio out, etc... > > That HDMI out is cool, as you can plug it into almost any modern monitor > and make nice user friendly presentations. > Something that is not so simple or needs extra hardware on other platforms. > My rapsi even plays HD movies... > Just imagine, when it starts up you can make it play the Highland background with cows grazing. > with greener grass...If my understanding is correct, the RPi's GPIO is particularly weedy and slow. OTOH, the Zync has a high performance FPGA tightly integrated with the CPU and memory. Hence if FPGA-CPU-DRAM communication performance is important, the Zync would win hands down.
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On 17/01/14 21:19, John Larkin wrote:> > > Just got this from production: > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/ASP_SN1_top.jpg > > from previously posted layout... > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/PCBs/P344_15.jpg > > > This is a pretty serious signal processor application, but dropping > the Zed on there makes it easy. We can plug a USB logic analyzer > directly onto that Mictor connector, which has 16 signals and a clock > from the uZed. > > Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the > Zed lit up and ran Linux.Which version of the Xilix toolset are you using? Please let us know if you continue to find things easy, or if you have had to workaround infelicities.
Reply by ●January 17, 20142014-01-17
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 22:06:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:>On a sunny day (Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:50:46 -0800) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in ><559jd9pie6ngd8l1ch1gp47von4771prtl@4ax.com>: > >>>>Rather than being cautious, I just plugged 24 volts into it, and the >>>>Zed lit up and ran Linux. >>> >>>What does 'Z' do that a Raspbery Pi cannot? >> >>Integrate two 600 MHz ARM cores and a screaming-fast FPGA onto one >>chip. And the Zed has Ethernet, flash, DRAM, USB, power supplies, all >>that stuff done and tested. It's a great way to do gear that will be >>built in fairly small quantities. > >Well rapsi has that, but only one core. > > >>This app will do a lot of signal processing in the FPGA at 48 M >>samples/second. > > >http://www.bugblat.com/products/pif/ >So all together with tools about 75 $; raspi + FPGA board. > >2 rapsis ... makes... >3 rapsis makes... > >any combination thereof. > >But rapsi also has HD HDMI out, and audio out, etc... > >That HDMI out is cool, as you can plug it into almost any modern monitor >and make nice user friendly presentations. >Something that is not so simple or needs extra hardware on other platforms. >My rapsi even plays HD movies... >Just imagine, when it starts up you can make it play the Highland background with cows grazing. >with greener grass...Offer that to the French imitation... http://www.greenfieldtechnology.com/ who copied our logo and our products. With seagulls. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com
