Hello, we want to start with xilinix on our linuxboxes (SuSE). We're new to xilinix -tools. I've seen, that the ISE tools might run with wine under linux. My Q: Does it work with the usb-download or perhaps is there a site to look at? Thanks Michael
Starting with xilinix and Linux
Started by ●January 10, 2005
Reply by ●January 10, 20052005-01-10
On 2005-01-10, Michael Schuster <schusterSoccer@enertex.de> wrote:> we want to start with xilinix on our linuxboxes (SuSE). We're new to xilinix > -tools. I've seen, that the ISE tools might run with wine under linux. My > Q: Does it work with the usb-download or perhaps is there a site to look > at?If you can pay for the tools, a Linux version of ISE is available. It should support parallel cable. I don't know about USB. If you're talking about WebPack, you're right, it's not natively for Linux. I don't know if it works with Wine, maybe.
Reply by ●January 10, 20052005-01-10
Tuukka Toivonen <tuukkat@killspam.ee.oulu.finland.invalid> wrote:> On 2005-01-10, Michael Schuster <schusterSoccer@enertex.de> wrote: > > we want to start with xilinix on our linuxboxes (SuSE). We're new > > to xilinix > > -tools. I've seen, that the ISE tools might run with wine under linux. My > > Q: Does it work with the usb-download or perhaps is there a site to look > > at?> If you can pay for the tools, a Linux version of ISE is available. > It should support parallel cable. I don't know about USB. > If you're talking about WebPack, you're right, it's not > natively for Linux. I don't know if it works with Wine, maybe.On a well configured and recent wine, Ise works quite a long way. Calling XST from ISE is dead slow, due to a Linux kernel bug. However you can't use the programming tools talking to the hardware. Is was told, that Ise 7.1 Webpack will come with a Linux version however. Until then, talk to your distributor for the Linux 60 day evaluation suite. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
Uwe Bonnes wrote:> Ise works quite a long way. Calling > XST from ISE is dead slow, due to a Linux kernel bug. However you can't > use the programming tools talking to the hardware.I tried to install the ise 6.3 with wine, but it didn't work. Do you have some hints? (Using SuSE 9.2 prof) Michael -- Remove the sport from my address to obtain email www.enertex.de - Innovative Systeml�sungen der Energie- und Elektrotechnik
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
Michael Schuster <schusterSoccer@enertex.de> wrote:> Uwe Bonnes wrote:> > Ise works quite a long way. Calling > > XST from ISE is dead slow, due to a Linux kernel bug. However you can't > > use the programming tools talking to the hardware. > I tried to install the ise 6.3 with wine, but it didn't work. Do you have > some hints? (Using SuSE 9.2 prof)There are several web sites, dedicated to Wine and Xilinx. First try to get help there, then ask again with precise information what's going wrong. One pitfall during the installation are messageboxes that get put _under_ other windows. Move the windows to click okay and continue. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
Uwe Bonnes wrote:> Michael Schuster <schusterSoccer@enertex.de> wrote: >> Uwe Bonnes wrote: > >> > Ise works quite a long way. Calling >> > XST from ISE is dead slow, due to a Linux kernel bug. However you can't >> > use the programming tools talking to the hardware. >> I tried to install the ise 6.3 with wine, but it didn't work. Do you have >> some hints? (Using SuSE 9.2 prof) > > There are several web sites, dedicated to Wine and Xilinx. First try to > get help there, then ask again with precise information what's going > wrong. One pitfall during the installation are messageboxes that get put > _under_ other windows. Move the windows to click okay and continue.Well 1. I didnot find any site with it, though I've searched more than 2 hours. 2. You told "On a well configured and recent wine, Ise works quite a long way" The last sounds to me, you have such a config (?). Again, if you can give me a hint, an adress, please do so. Michael -- Remove the sport from my address to obtain email www.enertex.de - Innovative Systeml�sungen der Energie- und Elektrotechnik
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:59:22 +0100, Michael Schuster wrote:> Hello, > we want to start with xilinix on our linuxboxes (SuSE). We're new to xilinix > -tools. I've seen, that the ISE tools might run with wine under linux. My > Q: Does it work with the usb-download or perhaps is there a site to look > at? > > Thanks > MichaelThe standard Xilinx tools are Linux native, the free webpack tools aren't. I'd suggest that you buy the tools. I'm running the tools on Mandrake 10.1, Whitebox (RHEL 3), and on Fedora Core 3, they work fine on both of those all of those distributions. You won't have any trouble with SUSE. The only thing that you can't do under Linux at the moment is use Chipscope. It's also not practical to use Impact, the driver support is limited to the kernel in Redhat 8.0 which is obsolete and was one of Redhat's worst releases. Hopefully 7.1 will add Linux support for Chipscope and Impact, but until then you might have to keep a old Windows machine in your lab. My clients generally keep some old PII or PIII clunker with Win2K in the lab for downloads.
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
Michael Schuster wrote:> Uwe Bonnes wrote: > >> Michael Schuster <schusterSoccer@enertex.de> wrote: > Well > 1. I didnot find any site with it, though I've searched more than 2 hours.Oh no, just typed and found I searched for xilinix instead of xilinx ...> The last sounds to me, you have such a config (?). Again, if you can give > me a hint, an adress, please do so.This holds true. Michael -- Remove the sport from my address to obtain email www.enertex.de - Innovative Systeml�sungen der Energie- und Elektrotechnik
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
B. Joshua Rosen wrote:> > The standard Xilinx tools are Linux native, the free webpack tools aren't. > I'd suggest that you buy the tools. I'm running the tools on Mandrake > 10.1, Whitebox (RHEL 3), and on Fedora Core 3, they work fine on both of > those all of those distributions. You won't have any trouble with SUSE. > The only thing that you can't do under Linux at the moment is use > Chipscope. It's also not practical to use Impact, the driver support is > limited to the kernel in Redhat 8.0 which is obsolete and was one of > Redhat's worst releases. Hopefully 7.1 will add Linux support for > Chipscope and Impact, but until then you might have to keep a old Windows > machine in your lab. My clients generally keep some old PII or PIII > clunker with Win2K in the lab for downloads.You must still be running ISE6.2 (like me) ;) Actually, even with 6.2, Xilinx provided driver source code for the driver needed by Impact, and it compiles and runs fine on RH9. I would guess that it will also work fine on RHEL3. Supposedly 6.3 includes a Linux version of Chipscope. One of these days I'll get around to installing that version and trying it out. 6.3 also officially supports RHEL. -- My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
Reply by ●January 12, 20052005-01-12
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:53:04 -0800, Duane Clark wrote:> B. Joshua Rosen wrote: >> >> The standard Xilinx tools are Linux native, the free webpack tools aren't. >> I'd suggest that you buy the tools. I'm running the tools on Mandrake >> 10.1, Whitebox (RHEL 3), and on Fedora Core 3, they work fine on both of >> those all of those distributions. You won't have any trouble with SUSE. >> The only thing that you can't do under Linux at the moment is use >> Chipscope. It's also not practical to use Impact, the driver support is >> limited to the kernel in Redhat 8.0 which is obsolete and was one of >> Redhat's worst releases. Hopefully 7.1 will add Linux support for >> Chipscope and Impact, but until then you might have to keep a old Windows >> machine in your lab. My clients generally keep some old PII or PIII >> clunker with Win2K in the lab for downloads. > > You must still be running ISE6.2 (like me) ;) Actually, even with 6.2, > Xilinx provided driver source code for the driver needed by Impact, and > it compiles and runs fine on RH9. I would guess that it will also work > fine on RHEL3. > > Supposedly 6.3 includes a Linux version of Chipscope. One of these days > I'll get around to installing that version and trying it out. 6.3 also > officially supports RHEL.I wasn't aware that they had released a Linux version of Chipscope, that's good news. I am running 6.3SP2, not 6.2, but 99% of my Xilinx tool time is doing synthesis, place and routes. I don't spend much time in the lab and when I do it's at a client so I use whatever they have installed. The performance of fpga_editor and floorplanner seems much better, they are both working fine across an ethernet connection now. At one time the X-Windows performance was awful but now it's fine, I wonder if that means that they've switched toolkits for 6.3 or if the old toolkit has been fixed.
