Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european states. Why Italy was excluded?
Italy is out of FPGA world?
Started by ●September 21, 2003
Reply by ●September 22, 20032003-09-22
"Valeria Dal Monte" <aaa@bbb.it> wrote in message news:<9qkbb.335067$Ny5.10649409@twister2.libero.it>...> Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european states. > Why Italy was excluded?No workshops in UK either :(
Reply by ●September 22, 20032003-09-22
> > Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european states. > > Why Italy was excluded? > > No workshops in UK either :(Gentlemen, Altera is offering a summer workshop series for designers as well. The current schedule (for Europe) includes sessions in Milan on October 30, and in Bedfordshire on November 20. You can view the program and enroll to attend online: http://www.altera.com/education/events/europe/sopc03/evt-index.jsp?xy=sopc_algh Jesse Kempa Altera Corp. jkempa at altera dot com
Reply by ●September 23, 20032003-09-23
"Valeria Dal Monte" <aaa@bbb.it> writes:> Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european states. > Why Italy was excluded? >A few years ago Peter Alfke told me that Italy represents a rather small share of the European market for Xilinx. I guess that's the reason... -Arrigo
Reply by ●September 25, 20032003-09-25
"Valeria Dal Monte" <aaa@bbb.it> ha scritto nel messaggio news:9qkbb.335067$Ny5.10649409@twister2.libero.it...> Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european > states. > Why Italy was excluded?Well, if you think that some multinationals put Italy into their SEMEA division (South Europe, Middle Europe and Africa), you can guess. We are considered just like Bulgaria or Libia and, with all the respect for these countries, I think we could deserve a little more. -- Lorenzo
Reply by ●October 17, 20032003-10-17
"Lorenzo Lutti" <lorenzo.lutti@DOHtiscalinet.it> wrote in message news:<O6Hcb.347818$lK4.11111238@twister1.libero.it>...> "Valeria Dal Monte" <aaa@bbb.it> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:9qkbb.335067$Ny5.10649409@twister2.libero.it... > > > Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european > > states. > > Why Italy was excluded? > > Well, if you think that some multinationals put Italy into their SEMEA > division (South Europe, Middle Europe and Africa), you can guess. We are > considered just like Bulgaria or Libia and, with all the respect for > these countries, I think we could deserve a little more.Lorenzo, I think it is not a matter of Libia or Bulgaria or other countries: if the FPGA market in Italy can't swallow enough chips, then Altera/Xilinx/XYZ will simply neglect this market. I can understand their position. Luca Ponte
Reply by ●October 18, 20032003-10-18
"nameiswolf" <nameiswolf@yahoo.it> ha scritto nel messaggio news:cb37e4f2.0310170705.5cd0db89@posting.google.com...> I think it is not a matter of Libia or Bulgaria or other > countries: if > the FPGA market in Italy can't swallow enough chips, then > Altera/Xilinx/XYZ will simply neglect this market. I can > understand > their position.Good point, but this seems a little like the story of the chicken and the egg (I don't know if the anglo-saxon people are familiar with it, I will explain if needed :)). How can the FPGA companies expect some interest from Italy, if they don't invest a penny in creating this interest? FPGA are without any doubt an interesting matter, at least more interesting than the average of what you study at the university; I have graduated completely unaware of their potentials, and I've had to learn them by myself, but many others won't (and the older, "classic" electronics engineers consider FPGA a thing completely out of their jurisdiction). The only way to spread FPGA knowledge is to teach them directly into the universities. FPGA and DSP are almost an unknown matter in the italian universities; it would take nothing for a giant like Xilinx or Altera to invest some spare money to "help" creating new italian engineers interested in FPGA. -- Lorenzo
Reply by ●October 19, 20032003-10-19
Hey Lorenzo, It is incredible that in response to an inquiry about technical workshops you found it appropriate to insult some countries (in fact whole regions!; even continents!!), and state little else. Way to approach the problem ! Ljubisa Bajic ATI Technologies --- My opinions do not represent those of my employers --- "Lorenzo Lutti" <lorenzo.lutti@DOHtiscalinet.it> wrote in message news:<O6Hcb.347818$lK4.11111238@twister1.libero.it>...> "Valeria Dal Monte" <aaa@bbb.it> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:9qkbb.335067$Ny5.10649409@twister2.libero.it... > > > Some days ago Xilinx did workshops in many european > > states. > > Why Italy was excluded? > > Well, if you think that some multinationals put Italy into their SEMEA > division (South Europe, Middle Europe and Africa), you can guess. We are > considered just like Bulgaria or Libia and, with all the respect for > these countries, I think we could deserve a little more.
Reply by ●October 19, 20032003-10-19
"Ljubisa Bajic" <eternal_nan@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio news:9b0afb2c.0310190955.aa5708d@posting.google.com...> It is incredible that in response to an inquiry about > technical workshops you found it appropriate to insult > some countries (in fact whole regions!; even > continents!!),Insult?! I have simply said that some multinationals consider Italy (from a *business* point of view) just like countries that are objectively far less industrialized than us. Italy is in the G8, Libia and Poland aren't even in the G20. When I say we "deserve" better, I mean that we could have a lot more technological resources to invest in FPGA world. This is a fact, not an offense. I didn't mean to insult anyone! If I did so, I apologize to whoever could have been offended. Probably the guilt is my bad english, I'm not able to express all my thoughts exactly. :) -- Lorenzo
Reply by ●October 20, 20032003-10-20
Lorenzo Lutti wrote:> "Ljubisa Bajic" <eternal_nan@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio > news:9b0afb2c.0310190955.aa5708d@posting.google.com... > > >>It is incredible that in response to an inquiry about >>technical workshops you found it appropriate to insult >>some countries (in fact whole regions!; even >>continents!!), > > > Insult?! I have simply said that some multinationals consider Italy > (from a *business* point of view) just like countries that are > objectively far less industrialized than us. Italy is in the G8, Libia > and Poland aren't even in the G20. When I say we "deserve" better, I > mean that we could have a lot more technological resources to invest in > FPGA world. This is a fact, not an offense. > > I didn't mean to insult anyone! If I did so, I apologize to whoever > could have been offended. Probably the guilt is my bad english, I'm not > able to express all my thoughts exactly. :) >The G8 membership might distort the picture a bit. South of say Bolognia there is not much Technology anymore. A few Tomatoes and Olives plus lots of companies using the cheap labour for simple jobs. Rene
