Spartan 3E slower that Spartan 3?

I know that Austin's Sunday-morning concern is valid, and it stems from
previous incidents, where unfriendly people, (sometimes referred to as
Competitors) have started anonymous mudslinging campaigns. It's so easy
to do, and hard to spot.
None of us says that this is the case with George Mercury (at least he
posts a reasonable name), but anonymity is known to be an invitation to
mischief.
That's all.
Peter Alfke
PS: Austin and I always give our company affiliation. But sometimes we
are too lazy to type, or we want to demonstrate that this is  personal
opnion, like this one. But nobody will ever accuse us of hiding...

I know that Austin's Sunday-morning concern is valid, and it stems from
previous incidents, where unfriendly people, (sometimes referred to as
Competitors) have started anonymous mudslinging campaigns. It's so easy
to do, and hard to spot.
None of us says that this is the case with George Mercury (at least he
posts a reasonable name), but anonymity is known to be an invitation to
mischief.
That's all.
Peter Alfke
PS: Austin and I always give our company affiliation. But sometimes we
are too lazy to type, or we want to demonstrate that this is  personal
opnion, like this one. But nobody will ever accuse us of hiding...

austin wrote:
> Well,
> 
> Since I don't know anything about 3E (I'm in APD, not GPD), I'll leave 
> them to comment on the speeds files.
> 
> But, I have been burned before by folks who are not who they seem, and 
> as posting anonomously is everyone's right, but I don't have to look on 
> an anonomous posting as being from a legitimate source.  And I don't 
> have to reply to it either.
> 
> Austin

Are we saying this posting comes from an anti Xilinx source, because 
he/she chooses to reduce hacking, spam etc

I usually just have a look at previous posts if I don't recognize a
name to see where they are coming from (rather than posting from).

on Mar 11, 2:00 pm by George Mercury -another post on Compact Flash
seems to be in line, unless he's a really dubious type laying out cover
story then following with a dagger, nah.

I also thought gmail was only beta so is not generally available to new
users right now.

regards

I also use a dead yahoo account but doesn't seem to matter

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 12:51:44 -0700, Peter Alfke wrote:

> I know that Austin's Sunday-morning concern is valid, and it stems from
> previous incidents, where unfriendly people, (sometimes referred to as
> Competitors) have started anonymous mudslinging campaigns. It's so easy
> to do, and hard to spot.
> None of us says that this is the case with George Mercury (at least he
> posts a reasonable name), but anonymity is known to be an invitation to
> mischief.
> That's all.
> Peter Alfke
> PS: Austin and I always give our company affiliation. But sometimes we
> are too lazy to type, or we want to demonstrate that this is  personal
> opnion, like this one. But nobody will ever accuse us of hiding...

Peter,Austin,

What does it matter if the OP is a shill or a legitimate poster? It's
a simple question, is the 3E slower than the 3 or not? It's faster,
slower, not fully characterized yet, are all legitimate answers. Even if
the OP is attempting to slander the part all you have to do to dispel is
claim is to post an answer.

To put it bluntly: Some Altera employees have in the past used this
newsgroup for anonymous deceptive marketing inuendos (no, no, neither
Mr Greenfield nor Paul Leventis would of course ever stoop so low. With
them we can have an open and fruitful exchange).
 I heard that their management has ordered to stop that kind of
nonsense. But it pays to be on the alert...
It's just too easy to start a rumor which then "blossoms" into a
50-post thread.
Peter Alfke

To put it bluntly: Some Altera employees have in the past used this
newsgroup for anonymous deceptive marketing inuendos (no, no, neither
Mr Greenfield nor Paul Leventis would of course ever stoop so low. With
them we can have an open and fruitful exchange).
 I heard that their management has ordered to stop that kind of
nonsense. But it pays to be on the alert...
It's just too easy to start a rumor which then "blossoms" into a
50-post thread.
Peter Alfke

To put it bluntly: Some Altera employees have in the past used this
newsgroup for anonymous deceptive marketing inuendos (no, no, neither
Mr Greenfield nor Paul Leventis would of course ever stoop so low. With
them we can have an open and fruitful exchange).
 I heard that their management has ordered to stop that kind of
nonsense. But it pays to be on the alert...
It's just too easy to start a rumor which then "blossoms" into a
50-post thread.
Peter Alfke

To put it bluntly: Some Altera employees have in the past used this
newsgroup for anonymous deceptive marketing inuendos (no, no, neither
Mr Greenfield nor Paul Leventis would of course ever stoop so low. With
them we can have an open and fruitful exchange).
 I heard that their management has ordered to stop that kind of
nonsense. But it pays to be on the alert...
It's just too easy to start a rumor which then "blossoms" into a
50-post thread.
Peter Alfke

Ben,

I learn something new everyday.

It turns out it is a DSL line (valid).  OK.  So now I fall back on my 
previous comment that I already made:  I don't know.

Is 3E faster or slower than 3?

Just don't know.

Will have to wait til tomorrow for the GPD person to post, as I am 
presuming he is not watching today.

If folks are looking for blazing speed, then I suggest they look at 
Virtex 4.  The Spartan team is all about value (lowest cost).  If you 
have already targeted a Spartan 3, and are moving to 3E because of the 
IO vs CLB cost benefits, then I am sure the FAE's and tools are there to 
support you.

Austin