Searching for info about very old FPGA devices

Started by Rodrigo Melo May 27, 2018
Hello. My name is Rodrigo and I am from Argentina. I was looking for very old
datasheets without success :-( (I searched a lot in google, archive.org,
alldatasheets, and more places...). I obtained name from old papers and patents:

* Plessey (1989). ERA60100 Preliminary Datasheet. Plessey Semiconductor, Swindon,
England.
* GEC Plessey Semiconductors, ERA60100 Electrically Reconfigurable Array Data Sheet,
GEC Plessey Semiconductors Ltd., Swindon, Wiltshire SN2 2QW, UK, 1991

* Plus Logic FPGA2020 Preliminary Data Sheet, 1990
* Plus Logic, FPSL5110 Product Brief , October 1989
* FPGA 2010, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
* FPGA 2020, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-37.
* FPGA 2040, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
* FPGA 5110, Intelligent Data Buffer, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date, pp.
1-6.

* Concurrent Logic, Inc. Data Sheet CFA6006 Field Programmable Gate Array; Advanced
Info.; Mar. 15, 1991, Rev. 2.2.
* Concurrent Logic, Inc., "CLi6000 Series Field Programmable Gate Array," Rev. 1.3,
May 1992.

* National Semiconductor, "Configurable Logic Array (CLAy) Data Sheet", 1993
* Configurable Logic Array (CLAy™); Preliminary. Datasheet, National
Semiconductors, Santa Clara, CA, Dec. 1993

I am studyng their architectures and the datasheet could be useful.

Some doubts which maybe somebody knows:
* Did Plus Logic FPGAs? I know, their devices are called FPGA20xx... However, Plus
Logic was acquired by Xilinx in 1991 to became the EPLD/CPLD division... And the
FPGA2020 became the XC7272 (which is a CPLD).
* Has the Clay from National some relation with the CLI6000 from Concurrent? or the
AT6000 from Atmel? (which acquired Concurrent Logic and CLI6000).

I read some very old posts with people speaking about some of them, so, maybe theses
people is still around and have some ideas :-D

Thanks in advance.
On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 12:39:02 PM UTC-4, Rodrigo Melo wrote:
> Hello. My name is Rodrigo and I am from Argentina. I was looking for very old
datasheets without success :-( (I searched a lot in google, archive.org, alldatasheets, and more places...). I obtained name from old papers and patents:
> > * Plessey (1989). ERA60100 Preliminary Datasheet. Plessey Semiconductor, Swindon,
England.
> * GEC Plessey Semiconductors, ERA60100 Electrically Reconfigurable Array Data
Sheet, GEC Plessey Semiconductors Ltd., Swindon, Wiltshire SN2 2QW, UK, 1991
> > * Plus Logic FPGA2020 Preliminary Data Sheet, 1990 > * Plus Logic, FPSL5110 Product Brief , October 1989 > * FPGA 2010, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
> * FPGA 2020, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-37.
> * FPGA 2040, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
> * FPGA 5110, Intelligent Data Buffer, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date, pp.
1-6.
> > * Concurrent Logic, Inc. Data Sheet CFA6006 Field Programmable Gate Array;
Advanced Info.; Mar. 15, 1991, Rev. 2.2.
> * Concurrent Logic, Inc., "CLi6000 Series Field Programmable Gate Array," Rev.
1.3, May 1992.
> > * National Semiconductor, "Configurable Logic Array (CLAy) Data Sheet", 1993 > * Configurable Logic Array (CLAy™); Preliminary. Datasheet, National
Semiconductors, Santa Clara, CA, Dec. 1993
> > I am studyng their architectures and the datasheet could be useful. > > Some doubts which maybe somebody knows: > * Did Plus Logic FPGAs? I know, their devices are called FPGA20xx... However, Plus
Logic was acquired by Xilinx in 1991 to became the EPLD/CPLD division... And the FPGA2020 became the XC7272 (which is a CPLD).
> * Has the Clay from National some relation with the CLI6000 from Concurrent? or
the AT6000 from Atmel? (which acquired Concurrent Logic and CLI6000).
> > I read some very old posts with people speaking about some of them, so, maybe
theses people is still around and have some ideas :-D
> > Thanks in advance.
I worked with the Concurrent chips, but I think the data sheets are on an old desktop that doesn't work anymore. I did find this on the Internet. www.datasheet5.com/download/CLI6006-4PL084C/252501 Hope that helps. Rick C.
> I worked with the Concurrent chips, but I think the data sheets are on an old
desktop that doesn't work anymore. I did find this on the Internet.
> > www.datasheet5.com/download/CLI6006-4PL084C/252501 > > Hope that helps. > > Rick C.
Hi Rick. Thanks. In fact, is the only one that I already have XD I copy and paste my list of missing datasheets where I didn't update that I found it the last week. I know that they are very old datasheet and if I didn't found in internet, old desktops are the only opportunity! I think that the worst cases are Plus Logic products, due that I think that were not marketed and there is very little information. Thanks
Some of the old parts (Motorola, Toshiba, and others) were licensed from 
Pilkington - that gives you another search term :)

See if you can track down someone from Lattice Logic in Edinburgh. They 
were gurus and were very well connected.

More parts for your list: Xilinx 5200 and Xilinx 8100.

I expect you've read this and checked the references:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7086413/

--
Tim


On 27/05/2018 17:38, Rodrigo Melo wrote:
> Hello. My name is Rodrigo and I am from Argentina. I was looking for very old
datasheets without success :-( (I searched a lot in google, archive.org, alldatasheets, and more places...). I obtained name from old papers and patents:
> > * Plessey (1989). ERA60100 Preliminary Datasheet. Plessey Semiconductor, Swindon,
England.
> * GEC Plessey Semiconductors, ERA60100 Electrically Reconfigurable Array Data
Sheet, GEC Plessey Semiconductors Ltd., Swindon, Wiltshire SN2 2QW, UK, 1991
> > * Plus Logic FPGA2020 Preliminary Data Sheet, 1990 > * Plus Logic, FPSL5110 Product Brief , October 1989 > * FPGA 2010, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
> * FPGA 2020, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-37.
> * FPGA 2040, Field Programmable Gate Array, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date,
pp. 1-4.
> * FPGA 5110, Intelligent Data Buffer, Plus Logic, San Jose, Calif., no date, pp.
1-6.
> > * Concurrent Logic, Inc. Data Sheet CFA6006 Field Programmable Gate Array;
Advanced Info.; Mar. 15, 1991, Rev. 2.2.
> * Concurrent Logic, Inc., "CLi6000 Series Field Programmable Gate Array," Rev.
1.3, May 1992.
> > * National Semiconductor, "Configurable Logic Array (CLAy) Data Sheet", 1993 > * Configurable Logic Array (CLAy™); Preliminary. Datasheet, National
Semiconductors, Santa Clara, CA, Dec. 1993
> > I am studyng their architectures and the datasheet could be useful. > > Some doubts which maybe somebody knows: > * Did Plus Logic FPGAs? I know, their devices are called FPGA20xx... However, Plus
Logic was acquired by Xilinx in 1991 to became the EPLD/CPLD division... And the FPGA2020 became the XC7272 (which is a CPLD).
> * Has the Clay from National some relation with the CLI6000 from Concurrent? or
the AT6000 from Atmel? (which acquired Concurrent Logic and CLI6000).
> > I read some very old posts with people speaking about some of them, so, maybe
theses people is still around and have some ideas :-D
> > Thanks in advance. >
> Some of the old parts (Motorola, Toshiba, and others) were licensed from > Pilkington - that gives you another search term :)
Yes, I know. Pilkington licensee Plessey (ERA), Toshiba (TC? somebody know about datasheets? I only have a paper) and Motorola (MAP1000). Somebody know others? I read it "others" a lot of times, but no more names.
> See if you can track down someone from Lattice Logic in Edinburgh. They > were gurus and were very well connected.
Ok, I will search about they.
> More parts for your list: Xilinx 5200 and Xilinx 8100.
Yes, I know all about Xilinx since the xc2064 :-D I also know that Xilinx acquired Plus Logic (CPLD business) and Algotronix (which derived in the xc6200). Also the coolrunner CPLDs from Philips.
> I expect you've read this and checked the references: > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7086413/
Yes, I read it and a lot more of paper. Any idea about Prizm? I found nothing about. I also know about IBM10016 (an AT6000 variation), Crosspoint's CP20K and Plasma from HP. My main doubts know are: * What about Prizm? * Was Plus Logic a FPGA vendor, or only CPLDs? * What about the Clay from Nationals? were originals or licensed? * What about others Pilkington based? * Is there a datasheet from TC series of Toshiba? I found other things from Toshiba called TC XD See you.
I was talking with former employees of NSC, which worked with the CLAy architecture.
None of them has the datasheets XD.

My other doubts (not related with CLAy) are still there XD.

Any help will be apreciated. Thanks
On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 8:49:18 PM UTC-4, Rodrigo Melo wrote:
> I was talking with former employees of NSC, which worked with the CLAy
architecture. None of them has the datasheets XD.
> > My other doubts (not related with CLAy) are still there XD. > > Any help will be apreciated. Thanks
No small part of the problem is that this was the early days of the Internet and PDF files. I don't recall how quickly PDF was adopted by everyone. Some products that only lasted a few years may have not made it onto PDF files. Rick C.
Yep. Since 1996 there are not many problems, but previous data is difficult to
obtain. It depends on somebody which digitalize the doc.