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Spartan3e and ChipScope

Started by Antti Lukats December 23, 2005
Hi

I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the 
Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent).

ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then:
1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found...
2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found...
3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy.
4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found...
5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found...
6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy
7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found..
8 what should I do next?

I am running my 3rd Day of struggle, and all I wanted todo was to programm 
the Intel Flash on the board, the board can be seen there
http://www.nuhorizons.com/products/xilinx/spartan3e/samplepack.html

any ideas?

Antti


How much was the S3E board?

Leon

"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> How much was the S3E board? > > Leon >
Hi Leon, please contact your local Xilinx FAE ASAP, there might be a surprise for you :) Antti PS I contacted nuhorizon regarding the S3e Sample Pack (as they are the only entity who has published any info about the board at the moment) but they did not even care to respond to the email at all, so I guess contacting nu makes no sense, but maybe I am on their blacklist as I have never ever purchased anything from them or even considered that. So others may be more lucky with nu. Anyway I would suggest contacting the Xilinx FAE and not any disti regarding the board.
"Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org> wrote in message 
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> "Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:1135334486.716451.7320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> How much was the S3E board? >> >> Leon >> > Hi Leon, > > please contact your local Xilinx FAE ASAP, there might be a surprise for > you :) > > Antti > > PS I contacted nuhorizon regarding the S3e Sample Pack (as they are the > only entity who has published any info about the board at the moment) but > they did not even care to respond to the email at all, so I guess > contacting nu makes no sense, but maybe I am on their blacklist as I have > never ever purchased anything from them or even considered that. So others > may be more lucky with nu. Anyway I would suggest contacting the Xilinx > FAE and not any disti regarding the board.
Unlucky for those of us not in Europe , US or Japan then. Same as with <http://www.em.avnet.com/spc/home/0,1727,RID%253D0%2526CID%253D27914%2526CCD%253DUSA%2526SID%253D4745%2526DID%253DDF2%2526LID%253D0%2526BID%253DDF2%2526CTP%253DSPC,00.html> See bottom of that page. ADDS-BFFPGA-EZEXT is a nice addon to the Analog Blackfin Ezkits (S31000 not S3e) if you were lucky enough to pick up the Ezkit at US$99 when they first came out a year or so back(now US$450) <http://www.analog.com/en/epHSProd/0,,BF-EXTENDERFPG,00.html> <http://www.analog.com/processors/epManualsDisplay/0,2795,,00.html?SectionWeblawId=207&ContentID=87691&Language=English> Blackfin stamps are currently cheapest dsp boards around (digikey) http://www.analog.com/en/epHSProd/0,,BF533-STAMP,00.html http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,2877,BF537%252DSTAMP,00.html http://blackfin.uclinux.org/ Similar but lot priceier (for TI DM642 EVM dsp board) uses a SX4 <http://www.spectrumdigital.com/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=174&osCsid=7ebc2584cab24a47e0e2fac9f1c689a3> Alex
"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> How much was the S3E board? > > Leon >
things are moving on, I wasnt sure if it was ok to say that the board is FREE, but as Avnet has said that in public so its public info now. The boards are ready for customers, just need to contact whoever is responsible for you as FAE/Disti. Antti http://xilant.com/content/category/4/81/55/ reviews of 2 different Spartan3e based boards (the sample pack review will be heavily updated over this weekend) http://xilant.com/content/view/28/51/ standalone programming and test utility for the s3e sample pack internal beta test at the moment, will be available shortly
Antti Lukats wrote:
> Hi > > I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the > Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent). > > ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then: > 1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found... > 2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found... > 3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy. > 4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found... > 5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found... > 6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy > 7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found.. > 8 what should I do next?
I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a lot easier this way. I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect ChipScope. When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing ensues ... -a
"Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> Antti Lukats wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the >> Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent). >> >> ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then: >> 1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found... >> 2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found... >> 3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy. >> 4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found... >> 5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found... >> 6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy >> 7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found.. >> 8 what should I do next? > > I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the > ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a > lot easier this way. > > I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the > chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program > the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect > ChipScope. > > When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing > ensues ... > > -a >
shit when works and cursing when not? That was a typo I guess :) well you can not use core inserter for the VIO, so thats no option. I dont know why you can not configure with chipscope, the way you do it is very troublesome. be aware that chipscope does not auto fix the startup clock so if the clock wasnt set to JTAG in the bitgen option then chipscope want of course configure. Antti
Antti Lukats wrote:
> "Andy Peters" <Bassman59a@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:1135359469.557185.162020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Antti Lukats wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I am having extreme trouble with ChipScope and Spartan3e (using the > >> Spartan3E Sample Pack PCB from digilent). > >> > >> ISE 7.1 sample top, CS coregen, ICON+VIO wired up build, then: > >> 1 First I tried CS 7.1SP2, no cores found... > >> 2 tested with CS analyzer 7.1SP4, no cores found... > >> 3 then regenerated the ICON+VIO with 7.1SP4, cores found, I am happy. > >> 4 then ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found... > >> 5 regenereting the ICON+VIO with CS 8.1 no cores found... > >> 6 updating the project to ISE 8.1, cores found, I am happy > >> 7 ISE clean, rebuild, no cores found.. > >> 8 what should I do next? > > > > I never instantiate ChipScope in the design. I always use the > > ChipScope Core Inserter. Making changes to what you wish to probe is a > > lot easier this way. > > > > I've noticed that, at least with Spartan 2E, you can't configure the > > chip from within ChipScope. It always fails. I use Impact to program > > the configuration EEPROM, then power-cycle the board, then reconnect > > ChipScope. > > > > When ChipScope works, it's the shit. When it doesn't, lots of cursing > > ensues ...
^^^^^^^ Not a typo. That is slang for very good.
> > > > -a > > > shit when works and cursing when not? That was a typo I guess :) > > well you can not use core inserter for the VIO, so thats no option. > > I dont know why you can not configure with chipscope, the way > you do it is very troublesome. be aware that chipscope does > not auto fix the startup clock so if the clock wasnt set to JTAG > in the bitgen option then chipscope want of course configure. > > Antti
I got one of the Blackfin EZ-kits when they were on special offer, and
one of the Stamp kits. Haven't used them much, though.

Leon

"Leon" <leon_heller@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>I got one of the Blackfin EZ-kits when they were on special offer, and > one of the Stamp kits. Haven't used them much, though. > > Leon
Have both boards myself. Using them a bit lately. Working on C6400/DM642 based video systems lately. Find the blackfin boards easier and faster to get things up and running on. The latest book Embedded Media Processing from David Katz and Rick Gentile is quite good but should have gone the next step and given at least a few complete code examples instead of a few snippets. Leaves the book feeling incomplete - difference between a good book and a great book. Useful book with its practical tips. Companian cd only has visualdsp++ and no code examples neither does the books website http://www.theempbook.com/ Alex