Raggedstone specifications ...

hi all,
I look the spec of the raggestone board, and i have a few questions :

- which boards are currently available for the rhs and lhs header ?  Is
there a ram board availbale ?
-is the jtag connector is compatible with the digilent programming
cable ?
-is the mode pin  (mode 0 1 & 2) are available ?
-is there some drivers and example of pci core freely available ?
thanks, Xavier.

<xavier.tastet@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
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> hi all,
> I look the spec of the raggestone board, and i have a few questions :
>
> - which boards are currently available for the rhs and lhs header ?  Is
> there a ram board availbale ?
> -is the jtag connector is compatible with the digilent programming
> cable ?
> -is the mode pin  (mode 0 1 & 2) are available ?
> -is there some drivers and example of pci core freely available ?
> thanks, Xavier.
>

John will answer some of the questions, but for the PCI part as of special
agreement Enterpoint can bundle our Ebook "DIY Logic Analyzer"
with the Raggestone sales (no extra payments) with the book resources is
also a PCI connected logic analyzer ip core that can be used as starting 
point
for developing testing PCI on the RS1 board

the onboard JTAG is Cable IV 2mm header so if you use some 3rd party
programmer with 2.5mm or flying wires then you need an adapter to the
2mm connector

Antti 

Great news for the pci starting point which could be very interesting
:)
In this ip core we can connect external data bus to the board to
monitor it, or it monitors the pci bus itself ?

I check my digilent cable, and the pin assignement is not the same,
some adaptation will be easy to do.
X.

Xavier

Raggedstone1 comes free with a programming cable PROG2.

The mode pins are connected together and go through a 0R resistor to 0V so 
not easy to change.

Boards that are now available for the DIL headers:

ADC_AD7927 200KHZ - 16 channel ADC based on Analog Devices AD7927
RS232
RS485
PS2 - Mouse and keyboard
LED Array
LED 4 Digit
LED Dot Matrix
USB1.1 - Interface only (core needs to be implemented in FPGA)

LVDS oscillator module (0.6 inch DIL) - Being tested shortly available 
assuming ok. Capable of going to 700MHz although I don't the Spartan-3 will 
like it that high.

There isn't a RAM board yet but there is a slowish 4MBit RAM chip that will 
fit the DIL on the LHS. A RAM module is being looked at and coming soon.

We are waiting for some faceplate/cable assemblies for some of these so 
stock is a bit patchy at present. This status should improve within the next 
few weeks and after that I expect them to be fully available.

Coming in the next batch are Ethernet Phy, IDE, Video Codec, 5V tolerant I/O 
to name a few. I don't have the full list with me so those are just the ones 
I can remember. These should be available in 4-8 week time frame assuming no 
design issues.

PCI Core - The Xilinx core works with our board and Jungo supply drivers for 
that core. Not free I'm afraid. I believe at least one of our customers has 
got the opencores PCI working as well. I don't know the driver status on 
this core. We have not tried it so I can't comment further. We are also at 
the testing stage on our own native PCI/OPB Bridge Interface and a driver 
for XP is being written for it. Linux to follow. A limited version/license 
will be offered free with Raggedstone1 when we are happy with it's 
performance. Higher feature level versions will be available too at an extra 
cost but low usage licenses won't be too expensive.

John Adair
Enterpoint Ltd. - Exhibiting at DATE2006.
http://www.enterpoint.co.uk


<xavier.tastet@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> hi all,
> I look the spec of the raggestone board, and i have a few questions :
>
> - which boards are currently available for the rhs and lhs header ?  Is
> there a ram board availbale ?
> -is the jtag connector is compatible with the digilent programming
> cable ?
> -is the mode pin  (mode 0 1 & 2) are available ?
> -is there some drivers and example of pci core freely available ?
> thanks, Xavier.
> 

Don't need to do it see my other post. If you real want to use then Digilent 
cable then we have an adaptor module for 6x1 digilent style or if you want 
to make a board with a 6x1 2mm that too. We have it for our 
Broaddown2/MINI-CAN products that use 6x1 heads.

John Adair
Enterpoint Ltd. - Some to be home of Broaddown4. The Ultimate Virtex-4 PCI-E 
Development Board.
http://www.enterpoint.co.uk

<xavier.tastet@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1137540056.542843.66450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Great news for the pci starting point which could be very interesting
> :)
> In this ip core we can connect external data bus to the board to
> monitor it, or it monitors the pci bus itself ?
>
> I check my digilent cable, and the pin assignement is not the same,
> some adaptation will be easy to do.
> X.
> 

john,
I've just check the jungo website ans they said :
"In Linux and Windows CE versions - Driver is operational for 60
minutes after re-starting it." about the free windriver. the full
driver is about 800 $... snif snif :'(
I'll carrefully check the website during the next week :)
thanks, Xavier.

In article <dqjuuq$cuu$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
John Adair <removethisthenleavejea@replacewithcompanyname.co.uk> wrote:
>Xavier
>
>Raggedstone1 comes free with a programming cable PROG2.
>
>The mode pins are connected together and go through a 0R resistor to 0V so 
>not easy to change.
>
>Boards that are now available for the DIL headers:
>
>ADC_AD7927 200KHZ - 16 channel ADC based on Analog Devices AD7927
>RS232
>RS485
>PS2 - Mouse and keyboard
>LED Array
>LED 4 Digit
>LED Dot Matrix
>USB1.1 - Interface only (core needs to be implemented in FPGA)
>
>LVDS oscillator module (0.6 inch DIL) - Being tested shortly available 
>assuming ok. Capable of going to 700MHz although I don't the Spartan-3 will 
>like it that high.
>
>There isn't a RAM board yet but there is a slowish 4MBit RAM chip that will 
>fit the DIL on the LHS. A RAM module is being looked at and coming soon.
>
>We are waiting for some faceplate/cable assemblies for some of these so 
>stock is a bit patchy at present. This status should improve within the next 
>few weeks and after that I expect them to be fully available.
>
>Coming in the next batch are Ethernet Phy, IDE, Video Codec, 5V tolerant I/O 
>to name a few. I don't have the full list with me so those are just the ones 
>I can remember. These should be available in 4-8 week time frame assuming no 
>design issues.
>
>PCI Core - The Xilinx core works with our board and Jungo supply drivers for 
>that core. Not free I'm afraid. I believe at least one of our customers has 
>got the opencores PCI working as well. I don't know the driver status on 
>this core. We have not tried it so I can't comment further. We are also at 
>the testing stage on our own native PCI/OPB Bridge Interface and a driver 
>for XP is being written for it. Linux to follow. A limited version/license 
>will be offered free with Raggedstone1 when we are happy with it's 
>performance. Higher feature level versions will be available too at an extra 
>cost but low usage licenses won't be too expensive.

I'm interested in using your board with a PCI core as well.  
Is the Jungo driver needed only for programming? (ie. if I program with the 
cable, I don't need the Jungo driver, right?)

I'm primarily interested in communication between the PC's CPU and the FPGA 
via the PCI bus - the opencores PCI bridge should work for what I want, 
correct? (Oh, and I'm on Linux, so if you could let me know what issues that 
might raise I'd appreciate it as well).

Thanks.

Phil

In article <1137541975.630883.170430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
xavier.tastet@gmail.com <xavier.tastet@gmail.com> wrote:
>john,
>I've just check the jungo website ans they said :
>"In Linux and Windows CE versions - Driver is operational for 60
>minutes after re-starting it." about the free windriver. the full
>driver is about 800 $... snif snif :'(
>I'll carrefully check the website during the next week :)
>thanks, Xavier.
>

Ouch!  What exactly is this jungo driver needed for and are there open source 
alternatives? (if not, it sounds like a good time to start one ;-)

Phil

Phil

What you need as a driver depends on your software. I'm not a softy so I am 
not best person to talk about this. If you simply want to use a PC slot to 
power the card or do what Antti has done with his design that turns a RS1 
into a parallel port look-alike you can get away without supplying a driver.

We are getting a drivers, XP and Linux, for our own PCI core but probably 
4-8 weeks away from releasing the first of these. We have a number of 
customers using Linux on various boards so if you ask in the Linux community 
newsgroups someone may offer a driver.

We know of a customer successfully using the Opencore PCI. Other than there 
where some deficencies in the documentation we don't know much more other 
than that the size is larger than the Xilinx offering. Our own core is 
looking very good on size and features but more on that when we are ready to 
launch it.

John Adair
Enterpoint Ltd. - Home of Broaddown2. The Ultimate Spartan3 Development 
Board.
http://www.enterpoint.co.uk


"Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@aracnet.com> wrote in message 
news:dqkhcl0598@enews2.newsguy.com...
> In article <dqjuuq$cuu$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> John Adair <removethisthenleavejea@replacewithcompanyname.co.uk> wrote:
>>Xavier
>>
>>Raggedstone1 comes free with a programming cable PROG2.
>>
>>The mode pins are connected together and go through a 0R resistor to 0V so
>>not easy to change.
>>
>>Boards that are now available for the DIL headers:
>>
>>ADC_AD7927 200KHZ - 16 channel ADC based on Analog Devices AD7927
>>RS232
>>RS485
>>PS2 - Mouse and keyboard
>>LED Array
>>LED 4 Digit
>>LED Dot Matrix
>>USB1.1 - Interface only (core needs to be implemented in FPGA)
>>
>>LVDS oscillator module (0.6 inch DIL) - Being tested shortly available
>>assuming ok. Capable of going to 700MHz although I don't the Spartan-3 
>>will
>>like it that high.
>>
>>There isn't a RAM board yet but there is a slowish 4MBit RAM chip that 
>>will
>>fit the DIL on the LHS. A RAM module is being looked at and coming soon.
>>
>>We are waiting for some faceplate/cable assemblies for some of these so
>>stock is a bit patchy at present. This status should improve within the 
>>next
>>few weeks and after that I expect them to be fully available.
>>
>>Coming in the next batch are Ethernet Phy, IDE, Video Codec, 5V tolerant 
>>I/O
>>to name a few. I don't have the full list with me so those are just the 
>>ones
>>I can remember. These should be available in 4-8 week time frame assuming 
>>no
>>design issues.
>>
>>PCI Core - The Xilinx core works with our board and Jungo supply drivers 
>>for
>>that core. Not free I'm afraid. I believe at least one of our customers 
>>has
>>got the opencores PCI working as well. I don't know the driver status on
>>this core. We have not tried it so I can't comment further. We are also at
>>the testing stage on our own native PCI/OPB Bridge Interface and a driver
>>for XP is being written for it. Linux to follow. A limited version/license
>>will be offered free with Raggedstone1 when we are happy with it's
>>performance. Higher feature level versions will be available too at an 
>>extra
>>cost but low usage licenses won't be too expensive.
>
> I'm interested in using your board with a PCI core as well.
> Is the Jungo driver needed only for programming? (ie. if I program with 
> the
> cable, I don't need the Jungo driver, right?)
>
> I'm primarily interested in communication between the PC's CPU and the 
> FPGA
> via the PCI bus - the opencores PCI bridge should work for what I want,
> correct? (Oh, and I'm on Linux, so if you could let me know what issues 
> that
> might raise I'd appreciate it as well).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil 

We have the Raggedstone1 board running with the pci32_lite core from
opencores.org. (Only a few minor changes were necessary).

I've written a simple linux driver along with a small user-space test
program that can write hex numbers to the 7seg display.

I've started a webpage for it here:
http://projects.varxec.net/doku.php/raggedstone1

Regards,
Manuel