Active-HDL 6.1 pricing

Hi,

Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?  
I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.

Regards,
Allan.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
<allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?  
>I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.

haha!  http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026

"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."

In article <q1chrvkpa2kejv3ttbidg2fv3ach5hd9bu@4ax.com>, Allan
Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> writes
>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
><allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?  
>>I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.
>
>haha!  http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026
>
>"Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."
>
Was about to give you a link to the UK distis, but then noticed you're no
longer there. Couldn't really imagine agilent jumping ship from Modelsim
anyway ;-)
-- 
fred

Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?

"Allan Herriman" <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in
message news:q1chrvkpa2kejv3ttbidg2fv3ach5hd9bu@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:24:06 +1100, Allan Herriman
> <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Does anyone know how much Aldec Active-HDL 6.1 costs?
> >I emailed Aldec, but they didn't bother to reply.
>
> haha!  http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20031022S0026
>
> "Active-HDL pricing starts at $5,900."
>

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:26:39 GMT, "Stratus Engineer"
<mjd03003@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?

I'm looking for a simulation tool that (1) works and (2) handles the
current version of Verilog (& pref. VHDL as well) and (3) doesn't have
a size limit (or crippled simulation speed) and (4) doesn't cost too
much.

There's not as much choice as I had first hoped.

I'm currently using Icarus (which fails on points 1 and 2).
I've considered various versions of Modelsim (which fail on either
point 3 or point 4).
I've considered Riviera (which fails on point 4).

Aldec seems like a logical next step.  Any other suggestions?

Regards,
Allan.

Allan Herriman wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:26:39 GMT, "Stratus Engineer"
> <mjd03003@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >Would you mind me asking why considering Aldec?
> 
> I'm looking for a simulation tool that (1) works and (2) handles the
> current version of Verilog (& pref. VHDL as well) and (3) doesn't have
> a size limit (or crippled simulation speed) and (4) doesn't cost too
> much.
> 
> There's not as much choice as I had first hoped.
> 
> I'm currently using Icarus (which fails on points 1 and 2).
> I've considered various versions of Modelsim (which fail on either
> point 3 or point 4).
> I've considered Riviera (which fails on point 4).
> 
> Aldec seems like a logical next step.  Any other suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> Allan.

I have used ModelSim in a couple of jobs as well as part of the low cost
or free tools that X and A offer(ed).  I contacted Aldec about their
simulator since I expected it to be much cheaper.  Sadly, it is not and
in fact is a bit more expensive.  So if ModelSim fails on point 4, then
Aldec will too (along with most of the others).  

On the other hand, many of the simulations I do run just fine with the
speed crippling, so I am ok for the moment.  

Have you looked at any of the open source tools?  Is that what Icarus
is?  I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.  

-- 

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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Have you looked at any of the open source tools?  Is that what Icarus
>is?  I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.  

Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
an open source tool (Icarus).

My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
"good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).

I wish that someone could prove me wrong!

Regards,
Allan.

Hi Allan,

Have you looked at Symphony EDA? It is 10% of Aldec's cost. I use
Aldec, but Symphony looks promising to me (I started using it a week
ago). It's interface is very similar, but it does not have all the
bells and whistles of Active-HDL.

-- Pete

Allan Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:<g62jrvopslpsj5tpdfmi978imnp7cuo9s2@4ax.com>...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Have you looked at any of the open source tools?  Is that what Icarus
> >is?  I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.  
> 
> Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
> an open source tool (Icarus).
> 
> My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
> "good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
> user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
> commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).
> 
> I wish that someone could prove me wrong!
> 
> Regards,
> Allan.

Oops, looking through the thread I see you want a Verilog sim.
Symphony is only VHDL.

-- Pete

Allan Herriman <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> wrote in message news:<g62jrvopslpsj5tpdfmi978imnp7cuo9s2@4ax.com>...
> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:27:22 -0500, rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Have you looked at any of the open source tools?  Is that what Icarus
> >is?  I am not familiar with them, but I know they exist.  
> 
> Yes, I am looking at commercial software because I am currently using
> an open source tool (Icarus).
> 
> My experience is that "open source" isn't necessarily the same as
> "good quality" when applied to EDA tools - both the developer and the
> user communities are just too small to achieve quality comparable with
> commercial EDA tools (or Linux, for that matter).
> 
> I wish that someone could prove me wrong!
> 
> Regards,
> Allan.

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