Webpack larger than CDs

I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
from one machine to the other.

Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
on a CD?

rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
>on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
>multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
>line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
>from one machine to the other.

>Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
>on a CD?

Try "bzip2 -9z", it will compress most things to the limit.

On a sunny day (05 Jun 2006 18:46:40 GMT) it happened
pbdelete@spamnuke.ludd.luthdelete.se.invalid wrote in
<44847c10$0$490$cc7c7865@news.luth.se>:

>rickman <spamgoeshere4@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
>>on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
>>multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
>>line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
>>from one machine to the other.
>
>>Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
>>on a CD?
>
>Try "bzip2 -9z", it will compress most things to the limit.

Or you could just binary split the file [use 2 CDs], dunno about MS windows,
but in Linux in the CD age I used dd, and cat on the other side.

There is a similar command even for MSDOS.

In Linux, create 2 images:
dd if=myfile bs=1000000 count=700 of=part1
dd if=myfile bs=1000000 skip=700 of=part2

Then burn part1 and part2 as image:
Insert empty CD1
growisofs -Z /dev/cd=part1
Insert empty CD2
growisofs -Z /dev/cd=part2

To restore:
Insert CD1
cat /dev/cd > myfile
Insert CD2
cat /dev/cd >> myfile

Done whole movies that way.. 

rickman schrieb:
> Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
> from one machine to the other.
Or a USB stick or network connection.

Kolja Sulimma

rickman wrote:
> I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
> on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
> multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
> line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
> from one machine to the other.
>
> Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
> on a CD?

I wrote a binary file splitor/combinor in Perl a while back. It's
available at
        http://home.comcast.net/~jimwu88/tools/

You can split the file to any size you want.

HTH,
Jim

>>Try "bzip2 -9z", it will compress most things to the limit.

>Or you could just binary split the file [use 2 CDs], dunno about MS windows,
>but in Linux in the CD age I used dd, and cat on the other side.

>There is a similar command even for MSDOS.

>In Linux, create 2 images:
>dd if=myfile bs=1000000 count=700 of=part1
>dd if=myfile bs=1000000 skip=700 of=part2

There's even simpler command for that :p

split -b 640m myfile

Should split myfile in 640 Mbyte chunks.

Rickman,

You can also use the "Web Installer" and then select the check boxes to 
"Install Later" and "Retain Downloaded Files".  This will give you the 
individual install options and you can eliminate some of the tools you 
don't want, or break it up over multiple CDs.

Ryan Laity
Xilinx

pbdelete@spamnuke.ludd.luthdelete.se.invalid wrote:
>>> Try "bzip2 -9z", it will compress most things to the limit.
> 
>> Or you could just binary split the file [use 2 CDs], dunno about MS windows,
>> but in Linux in the CD age I used dd, and cat on the other side.
> 
>> There is a similar command even for MSDOS.
> 
>> In Linux, create 2 images:
>> dd if=myfile bs=1000000 count=700 of=part1
>> dd if=myfile bs=1000000 skip=700 of=part2
> 
> There's even simpler command for that :p
> 
> split -b 640m myfile
> 
> Should split myfile in 640 Mbyte chunks.
> 

rickman wrote:
> I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
> on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
> multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
> line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
> from one machine to the other.
>
> Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
> on a CD?

Thanks for all the potential solutions.  But they pretty much all won't
work for me.  I can try the Xilinx web install with the retain files
option.  But if it has to actually "install" the files, it won't work
for me.  I am at a facility where we can't install any software
ourselves.  We have to have IT do it for us.  That eliminates most of
the other solutions as well.

I guess I can just let IT figure out how to get the software onto a
machine that is not on the network.  I have a 1 GB flash drive, but I
don't care to copy all my files off of it and I probably will be
violating some rule using my own storage rather than theirs.

The solution I like best is to get the latest copy of WinZip which will
break up archives to 650 or 700 MB hunks.  But this is yet another
piece of software I have to get IT to buy and install on *both*
machines.

The office has a prohibition to taking stuff home or I would use my
Flash drive to copy the file to home where I can burn a DVD.  I haven't
found a DVD burner at work yet.

So to make my life, and possibly others who work in the defence
community, easier, Xilinx can you provide webpack in two files which
will each fit on a CD?

I know that I can order a DVD for $6 and in this case I will have to do
that.  But the ease of downloading a file in a few minutes is such a
better solution than to have to have a purchase requisition generated,
etc... for just $6!  Besides, the secretary who can use the credit card
is out of the office all this week!!!

Rickman, there is a simple short-term fix:
Pay the $6 out of your own pocket. It's less than a cafeteria lunch...
Avoids a lot of hassles, and waste of taxpayers' money.
That $6 puchase order easily becomes a $50+ burden for the taxpayer.
Please, no flames from people who think that $6 is a fortune.

Peter, speaking for himself (and out of experience)
=================
rickman wrote:
> rickman wrote:
> > I don't know exactly when this happened, but webpack will no longer fit
> > on a single CD.  I seem to recall when they split the download into
> > multiple files so that they could be loaded in pieces over a phone
> > line.  Now the size means you have to have a DVD burner to carry it
> > from one machine to the other.
> >
> > Any chance webpack can be provided in two hunks each of which will fit
> > on a CD?
>
> Thanks for all the potential solutions.  But they pretty much all won't
> work for me.  I can try the Xilinx web install with the retain files
> option.  But if it has to actually "install" the files, it won't work
> for me.  I am at a facility where we can't install any software
> ourselves.  We have to have IT do it for us.  That eliminates most of
> the other solutions as well.
>
> I guess I can just let IT figure out how to get the software onto a
> machine that is not on the network.  I have a 1 GB flash drive, but I
> don't care to copy all my files off of it and I probably will be
> violating some rule using my own storage rather than theirs.
>
> The solution I like best is to get the latest copy of WinZip which will
> break up archives to 650 or 700 MB hunks.  But this is yet another
> piece of software I have to get IT to buy and install on *both*
> machines.
>
> The office has a prohibition to taking stuff home or I would use my
> Flash drive to copy the file to home where I can burn a DVD.  I haven't
> found a DVD burner at work yet.
>
> So to make my life, and possibly others who work in the defence
> community, easier, Xilinx can you provide webpack in two files which
> will each fit on a CD?
>
> I know that I can order a DVD for $6 and in this case I will have to do
> that.  But the ease of downloading a file in a few minutes is such a
> better solution than to have to have a purchase requisition generated,
> etc... for just $6!  Besides, the secretary who can use the credit card
> is out of the office all this week!!!

On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:05:21 -0700, Peter Alfke top-posted:

> Rickman, there is a simple short-term fix:
> Pay the $6 out of your own pocket. It's less than a cafeteria lunch...
> Avoids a lot of hassles, and waste of taxpayers' money.
> That $6 puchase order easily becomes a $50+ burden for the taxpayer.
> Please, no flames from people who think that $6 is a fortune.
> 
> Peter, speaking for himself (and out of experience)
[Peter, please learn to bottom-post, it's much easier on the flow of the
thread.]
> rickman wrote:

>> I know that I can order a DVD for $6 and in this case I will have to do
>> that.  But the ease of downloading a file in a few minutes is such a
>> better solution than to have to have a purchase requisition generated,
>> etc... for just $6!  Besides, the secretary who can use the credit card
>> is out of the office all this week!!!

I'd be willing to bet money that if rickman were to buy something like
that out of his own pocket in the high-security military milieu he seems
to be in, he'll get in a lot more trouble than if he goes through channels
- and since this is taxpayer-funded, they don't care how long it takes, as
long as you spend the budget before audit time. ;-)

Good Luck!
Rich