How to get lowest price for a ModelSim license?

Hi,
We want to buy a ModelSim license.

1. Buy Xilinx-ModelSim version license from Xilinx website shop for
$1150 with dongle and 1 year expiration limit;

2. Buy ModelSim PE version from one of agents we contact: $3K for
perpatual license.

Both versions will work and make no differences to our applications.

Does anyone knows a better way to buy a ModelSim license with lowest
price except the above two options? For a start-up, we prefer lowest
price, of course.

Thank you.

Weng

you can try lattice semi for a fraction of cost, only restriction is
you have to use their FPGA, but not bad at all.

Weng Tianxiang wrote:
> Hi,
> We want to buy a ModelSim license.
>
> 1. Buy Xilinx-ModelSim version license from Xilinx website shop for
> $1150 with dongle and 1 year expiration limit;
>
> 2. Buy ModelSim PE version from one of agents we contact: $3K for
> perpatual license.
>
> Both versions will work and make no differences to our applications.
>
> Does anyone knows a better way to buy a ModelSim license with lowest
> price except the above two options? For a start-up, we prefer lowest
> price, of course.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Weng

Weng Tianxiang wrote:
> Hi,
> We want to buy a ModelSim license.
> 
> 1. Buy Xilinx-ModelSim version license from Xilinx website shop for
> $1150 with dongle and 1 year expiration limit;
> 
> 2. Buy ModelSim PE version from one of agents we contact: $3K for
> perpatual license.
> 
> Both versions will work and make no differences to our applications.
> 
> Does anyone knows a better way to buy a ModelSim license with lowest
> price except the above two options? For a start-up, we prefer lowest
> price, of course.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Weng
>

Hi Weng,
I guess from 'start-up' you are talking commercial use. If, however, you
are an academic user, you might want to talk to europractice.

http://www.msc.rl.ac.uk/europractice/

Andy

Weng Tianxiang wrote:

> 1. Buy Xilinx-ModelSim version license from Xilinx website shop for
> $1150 with dongle and 1 year expiration limit;

Quartus FIXEDPC $2k license covers windows modelsim
for vhdl or verilog.
One year limit only applies to updates -- tools keep working.
 From distributors only.

> 2. Buy ModelSim PE version from one of agents we contact: $3K for
> perpatual license.

Quartus FLOATLNX $3k license covers linux modelsim
for vhdl or verilog.
One year limit only applies to updates -- tools keep working.
 From distributors only.

   -- Mike Treseler

oneweek wrote:
> you can try lattice semi for a fraction of cost, only restriction is
> you have to use their FPGA, but not bad at all.
>
ModelSim is included with shipments of Lattice's ispLEVER base
software, which you can purchase (Windows part number:
LS-HDL-BASE-PC-N) from the Lattice online store for $495 at
http://www.latticesemi.com/store/software.cfm

Regards,
Bart Borosky, Lattice

bart wrote:
> oneweek wrote:
> > you can try lattice semi for a fraction of cost, only restriction is
> > you have to use their FPGA, but not bad at all.
> >
> ModelSim is included with shipments of Lattice's ispLEVER base
> software, which you can purchase (Windows part number:
> LS-HDL-BASE-PC-N) from the Lattice online store for $495 at
> http://www.latticesemi.com/store/software.cfm
>
> Regards,
> Bart Borosky, Lattice

if you use verilog I suggest you to try icarus verilog
:http://www.icarus.com/eda/verilog.
and the wave viewer you can use wave 1.0 : www.iss-us.com
I think they are quite good.
They are free and in my opinion they are veru good.

Francesco

> Quartus FIXEDPC $2k license covers windows modelsim
> for vhdl or verilog.
> One year limit only applies to updates -- tools keep working.


Are you sure about that Mike, I thought they changed the licencing
model a while ago so Modelsim only works for 18 months now.


Nial. 

Weng

Have you tried GHDL? It's a great simulator for start-up and costs
nothing.

  http://gna.org/projects/ghdl

Good luck!

Richard

Nial Stewart wrote:
>> Quartus FIXEDPC $2k license covers windows modelsim
>> for vhdl or verilog.
>> One year limit only applies to updates -- tools keep working.
> 
> Are you sure about that Mike, I thought they changed the licencing
> model a while ago so Modelsim only works for 18 months now.

I'm not 100% sure of anything.
But that is what the licensing data sheet says.
Anybody from Altera got their ears on?

   -- Mike Treseler

"Weng Tianxiang" <wtxwtx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1150137811.189733.257690@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> We want to buy a ModelSim license.
> 1. Buy Xilinx-ModelSim version license from Xilinx website shop for
> $1150 with dongle and 1 year expiration limit;
> 2. Buy ModelSim PE version from one of agents we contact: $3K for
> perpatual license.
> Both versions will work and make no differences to our applications.
> Does anyone knows a better way to buy a ModelSim license with lowest
> price except the above two options? For a start-up, we prefer lowest
> price, of course.


If you're not tied to Modelsim it might be worth looking at
VHDL Simili from SymphonyEDA...

http://www.symphonyeda.com/

It's a fully compliant VHDL simulator. I've been evaluating it since it
came out, it's always been a bit slower than Modelsim but I see that they've
put some effort into speeding it up for the latest release (I haven't tried
this so can't comment).

Hard to beat for the price


Nial.