Are you ready for Virtex-5? We are...

You can order Virtex-5 devices from your distributor now, and he will
offer short delivery times.
Whether the distributor carries these parts on his shelves is entirely
his business decision, but he can always get them for you from Xilinx
at short notice. ("4 to 6 weeks" seems to be the standard answer, but
don't be surprised if it is much faster.)
Available from inventory here at Xilinx are nine part / package
combinations, eighteen if you count the leaded/lead-free versions:

XC5VLX30-1FF(G)324C and -676C
XC5VLX50-1FF(G)324C and -676C and -1153C
XC5VLX85-1FF(G)676C and -1153C
XC5VLX110-1FF(G)676C and -1153C

LX is the logic-oriented sub-family, with BlockRAMs and DSP slices, but
without multi-gigabit transceivers. See the data sheet on the Xilinx
website.
The 30 to 110 is a proportional indicator of logic density (thousands
of "equivalent Logic Cells")
The -1 stands for the slowest speed grade (the only one available this
early)
The FF stands for flip-chip ball-grid array, the one way we package all
Virtex-5 family devices
The G stands for "green" = lead-free packages which are all available
right now.

We have found over the years that small-volume users and consultants
often are the most enthusiastic early adopters, but they may not always
be sure about instant availability.
Now you know !
More parts to come very soon.

Peter Alfke, who has been working on and with these parts for over a
year.

OOPS, I forgot to point out that the part number must have ES at the
end of its name, e.g.
XC5VLX30-1FFG324CES.

ES stands for "Early Silicon". The absence of these two letters would
declare it a "volume production" part (which is not available yet), and
the order would automatically be rejected.
One can never be too precise, especially with computerized order entry.
Peter Alfke


Peter Alfke wrote:
> You can order Virtex-5 devices from your distributor now, and he will
> offer short delivery times.
> Whether the distributor carries these parts on his shelves is entirely
> his business decision, but he can always get them for you from Xilinx
> at short notice. ("4 to 6 weeks" seems to be the standard answer, but
> don't be surprised if it is much faster.)
> Available from inventory here at Xilinx are nine part / package
> combinations, eighteen if you count the leaded/lead-free versions:
>
> XC5VLX30-1FF(G)324C and -676C
> XC5VLX50-1FF(G)324C and -676C and -1153C
> XC5VLX85-1FF(G)676C and -1153C
> XC5VLX110-1FF(G)676C and -1153C
>
> LX is the logic-oriented sub-family, with BlockRAMs and DSP slices, but
> without multi-gigabit transceivers. See the data sheet on the Xilinx
> website.
> The 30 to 110 is a proportional indicator of logic density (thousands
> of "equivalent Logic Cells")
> The -1 stands for the slowest speed grade (the only one available this
> early)
> The FF stands for flip-chip ball-grid array, the one way we package all
> Virtex-5 family devices
> The G stands for "green" = lead-free packages which are all available
> right now.
>
> We have found over the years that small-volume users and consultants
> often are the most enthusiastic early adopters, but they may not always
> be sure about instant availability.
> Now you know !
> More parts to come very soon.
>
> Peter Alfke, who has been working on and with these parts for over a
> year.

Peter Alfke wrote:

> See the data sheet on the Xilinx website.

Why can't we get the errata as simple as the datasheet ?. Seems crucial
for ES devices.

Karl.

Karl,

http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xweb/xil_publications_display.jsp?iLanguageID=1&category=-1212267&sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=

How easy is that?

Austin

Austin Lesea schreef:
> http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xweb/xil_publications_display.jsp?iLanguageID=1&category=-1212267&sGlobalNavPick=&sSecondaryNavPick=
>
> How easy is that?
> 
> Austin

Not easy enough. I have to register.

Karl.

Peter Alfke wrote:

> OOPS, I forgot to point out that the part number must have ES at the
> end of its name, e.g.
> XC5VLX30-1FFG324CES.
> 
> ES stands for "Early Silicon". The absence of these two letters would
> declare it a "volume production" part (which is not available yet), and
> the order would automatically be rejected.
> One can never be too precise, especially with computerized order entry.
> Peter Alfke
> 


I thought "ES" stood for "Engineering Sample"....learn something new
every day...

Alan

Karl,

Does that mean you will not use Virtex 5?

Austin

Austin Lesea wrote:
> Karl,
>
> Does that mean you will not use Virtex 5?

It might sound silly, but sometimes that is all it takes.. (Especially
if the process is not fully automated, but I don't know whether that is
the case here).

Cheers,
Jon

We are only interested in serious designers, not just "tire-kickers".
The registration is not a hurdle if you are serious.

BTW: In this case, the errata are really trivial: a register that must
be reset a special way, a reduced max frequency in synchronous FIFO
mode, a missing optional clock inversion somewhere...

"Early Silicon" is my interpretation of ES. To call it "Engineering
Samples" would be misleading. These are full-quality, fully tested and
characterized parts that work over temperature and voltage ranges.

This is Early Silicon, and any design error (and there often is, since
nobody is perfect the first time around) it is described on an errata
sheet. By definition, every ES device has an errata sheet; at best the
sheet just says: No errata! The errata will be fixed in the production
(non-ES) version. That's why we suggest that you avoid, if you can,
shipping our ES parts in your production equipment. Saves you some
logistic confusion.

We are excited that the Virtex-5 parts came out so clean, and with good
manufacturing yield. That's why I took the unusual (controversial?)
step of advertising availability in this newsgroup.
Maybe I can help to reduce the usual design-in delay, to your and to
our benefit.
Peter Alfke, Xilinx
======================

Jon Beniston wrote:
> Austin Lesea wrote:
> > Karl,
> >
> > Does that mean you will not use Virtex 5?
>
> It might sound silly, but sometimes that is all it takes.. (Especially
> if the process is not fully automated, but I don't know whether that is
> the case here).
> 
> Cheers,
> Jon

"Peter Alfke" <peter@xilinx.com> wrote:

>You can order Virtex-5 devices from your distributor now, and he will
>offer short delivery times.
>Whether the distributor carries these parts on his shelves is entirely
>his business decision, but he can always get them for you from Xilinx
>at short notice. ("4 to 6 weeks" seems to be the standard answer, but
>don't be surprised if it is much faster.)
>Available from inventory here at Xilinx are nine part / package
>combinations, eighteen if you count the leaded/lead-free versions:
>
>XC5VLX30-1FF(G)324C and -676C
>XC5VLX50-1FF(G)324C and -676C and -1153C
>XC5VLX85-1FF(G)676C and -1153C
>XC5VLX110-1FF(G)676C and -1153C
>
>LX is the logic-oriented sub-family, with BlockRAMs and DSP slices, but
>without multi-gigabit transceivers. See the data sheet on the Xilinx
>website.
>The 30 to 110 is a proportional indicator of logic density (thousands
>of "equivalent Logic Cells")
>The -1 stands for the slowest speed grade (the only one available this
>early)
>The FF stands for flip-chip ball-grid array, the one way we package all
>Virtex-5 family devices
>The G stands for "green" = lead-free packages which are all available
>right now.
>
>We have found over the years that small-volume users and consultants
>often are the most enthusiastic early adopters, but they may not always
>be sure about instant availability.
>Now you know !
>More parts to come very soon.
>
>Peter Alfke, who has been working on and with these parts for over a
>year.

How about some budgetary prices for low volumes? I'm Dutch so my first
question is always: "How much does it cost?".

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