I just found out that ISE 6.1 for Linux does not support the Parallel Cable 4 (both products from Xilinx ! ). Does anybody know of a tools that will allow me to use the Parallel Cable 4 under Linux ? (All I need is JTAG download and verify). Thanks, rudi ======================================================== ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
Parallel Cable 4 & Linux
Started by ●December 20, 2003
Reply by ●December 20, 20032003-12-20
Rudolf Usselmann <russelmann@hotmail.com> wrote: : I just found out that ISE 6.1 for Linux does not support : the Parallel Cable 4 (both products from Xilinx ! ). : Does anybody know of a tools that will allow me to use : the Parallel Cable 4 under Linux ? (All I need is JTAG : download and verify). As Download Cable uses a WinDriver driver and WinDriver is also available on Linux, I thought ISE 6.1 for Linux would support Parallel Cable 4 for Linux too. Sad to hear that it is not the case. http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/html/cable_compar_chart.htm also doesn't mention Linux for "ISE 6.1 for Linux" If Xilinx would look at the Linux Parport/ppdev API, it should be easy for them to write a driver in a short time. For now you can have a look at NAXJP (http://www.nahitech.com/nahitafu/naxjp/naxjp-e.html), which supports some devices. Nahitafu's idea to use the bit file for programming seema also to consider. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------
Reply by ●December 22, 20032003-12-22
ISE 6.2i will support the Parallel 4 cable on Linux. Uwe Bonnes wrote:>Rudolf Usselmann <russelmann@hotmail.com> wrote: >: I just found out that ISE 6.1 for Linux does not support >: the Parallel Cable 4 (both products from Xilinx ! ). > >: Does anybody know of a tools that will allow me to use >: the Parallel Cable 4 under Linux ? (All I need is JTAG >: download and verify). > >As Download Cable uses a WinDriver driver and WinDriver is also available on >Linux, I thought ISE 6.1 for Linux would support Parallel Cable 4 for Linux >too. Sad to hear that it is not the case. >http://www.xilinx.com/xlnx/xebiz/html/cable_compar_chart.htm >also doesn't mention Linux for "ISE 6.1 for Linux" > >If Xilinx would look at the Linux Parport/ppdev API, it should be easy for >them to write a driver in a short time. > >For now you can have a look at NAXJP >(http://www.nahitech.com/nahitafu/naxjp/naxjp-e.html), which supports some >devices. Nahitafu's idea to use the bit file for programming seema also to >consider. > >Bye > >
Reply by ●December 26, 20032003-12-26
Steve Lass <lass@xilinx.com> wrote in message news:<bs79d2$84a1@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com>...> ISE 6.2i will support the Parallel 4 cable on Linux.Thats great. So what am I supposed to do in the mean while ? Shut down my company until you guys make your software work with your hardware ? Seriously, this is a real problem, and nobody seems to have a solution. I tries modifying the software in app 058, but that also needs a PC piece of SW to translate svf to xsvf files. Can you, Steve, or somebody else at Xilinx provide a Linux version (or source code) for the svf to xsvf translator ? Also, in the answer records, it states the schematic for parallel cable 4 is unavailable because it is a "proprietary" design. This seems to me really nonsense, you guys make money with FPGAs not with cables. releasing the schematic will enable users to support them selves when you guys can't. Could you please ask the appropriate people to reconsider this choice ? Do you have a date for 6.2i (patch?) ? Thanks, rudi ======================================================== ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
Reply by ●December 29, 20032003-12-29
Rudolf Usselmann wrote:> > Also, in the answer records, it states the schematic for > parallel cable 4 is unavailable because it is a "proprietary" > design. This seems to me really nonsense, you guys make > money with FPGAs not with cables. releasing the schematic > will enable users to support them selves when you guys > can't. Could you please ask the appropriate people to > reconsider this choice ?If you open up the parallel cable 4, you will see it is built with a big CPLD, so it is clearly a parallel-serial converter (serializer). The PC sends in bytes in a normal "line printer" strobed mode, and the CPLD turns that into the JTAG data stream. That said, there's a lot of room for "innovation" (cough, "problem solving" for us engineers, try telling that to the lawyers) in how that transaction happens, especially controlling the JTAG state machine before getting to the bulk bit transfer mode. If you can take the performance hit, I recommend you switch back to Parallel Cable 3, for which Linux drivers are trivial and widely published. Also, I can put you in touch with someone who made an "open source" USB-to-JTAG programmer, out of an XC2S30 and an FT245B. Schematics, FPGA code, and software are published. Linux drivers are provably possible, but not demonstrated -- of course, Xilinx packaged software will probably never support this device. I personally have access to one board. - Larry
Reply by ●December 30, 20032003-12-30
Larry Doolittle <ldoolitt@recycle.lbl.gov> wrote in message news:<slrnbv0usm.ird.ldoolitt@recycle.lbl.gov>...> > If you open up the parallel cable 4, you will see it is > built with a big CPLD, so it is clearly a parallel-serial > converter (serializer). The PC sends in bytes in a > normal "line printer" strobed mode, and the CPLD turns > that into the JTAG data stream.Actually, right after powerup, it does behave just like a Parallel Cable 3. I can toggle the lines and read the sense just as it is documented for the Par. Cable 3. I wonder however, how to put the cable in to the "enhanced" mode, e.g. using the parallel to serial conversion.> If you can take the performance hit, I recommend you switch > back to Parallel Cable 3, for which Linux drivers are trivial > and widely published. Also, I can put you in touch with > someone who made an "open source" USB-to-JTAG programmer, > out of an XC2S30 and an FT245B. Schematics, FPGA code, and > software are published. Linux drivers are provably possible, > but not demonstrated -- of course, Xilinx packaged software > will probably never support this device. I personally have > access to one board.Yes, definitely, please post that info. I started writing a program that would emulate the JTAG tap controller but got stuck, as I could not debug it. If there is anybody interested in working with me on that, I would like to continue the project ... I also looked at app note 058, which pretty much does what I need, except it again requires you to run a translator program (svf->xsvf on a Windoze box). I converted ALL my systems that where running the Windoze Trojan Horse/Worm/Obscure Piece of Crap OS to Linux.> - LarryThanks, rudi ======================================================== ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
Reply by ●December 30, 20032003-12-30
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:45:26 -0800, Rudolf Usselmann wrote:> Larry Doolittle <ldoolitt@recycle.lbl.gov> wrote in message > news:<slrnbv0usm.ird.ldoolitt@recycle.lbl.gov>... >> >> If you open up the parallel cable 4, you will see it is built with a >> big CPLD, so it is clearly a parallel-serial converter (serializer). >> The PC sends in bytes in a normal "line printer" strobed mode, and the >> CPLD turns that into the JTAG data stream. > > Actually, right after powerup, it does behave just like a Parallel Cable > 3. I can toggle the lines and read the sense just as it is documented > for the Par. Cable 3. > > I wonder however, how to put the cable in to the "enhanced" mode, e.g. > using the parallel to serial conversion. > >> If you can take the performance hit, I recommend you switch back to >> Parallel Cable 3, for which Linux drivers are trivial and widely >> published. Also, I can put you in touch with someone who made an "open >> source" USB-to-JTAG programmer, out of an XC2S30 and an FT245B. >> Schematics, FPGA code, and software are published. Linux drivers are >> provably possible, but not demonstrated -- of course, Xilinx packaged >> software will probably never support this device. I personally have >> access to one board. > > Yes, definitely, please post that info. > > I started writing a program that would emulate the JTAG tap controller > but got stuck, as I could not debug it. If there is anybody interested > in working with me on that, I would like to continue the project ... > > I also looked at app note 058, which pretty much does what I need, > except it again requires you to run a translator program (svf->xsvf on a > Windoze box). I converted ALL my systems that where running the Windoze > Trojan Horse/Worm/Obscure Piece of Crap OS to Linux.Jim Kearney is doing some firmware upgrades to the USB-JTAG at the moment but we would welcome anyone wanting to help port the software to Linux. There is a FTDI driver for Linux (and xBSD), so the low level interface should not be too difficult. I am willing to give free hardware to anyone that contributes to porting or improving the software (Larry I have a REVB assembed card here if you stop by and pick it up) Currently status is as follows: BITfile download, SVF player work from Windows Shift rates from 250 KHZ to 48 MHz 2 independent TAP controllers programmable series termination on TCK output and parallel passive termination on TDO (primary TAP only) Firmware bug fixes/ REVB card updates being done now (Thanks Jim!) GPLed software,firmware, and schematics are located here: http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/jtag.zip Peter Wallace> >> - Larry > > Thanks, > rudi > ======================================================== > ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: > ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores > -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
Reply by ●December 30, 20032003-12-30
Rudolf Usselmann wrote:>Steve Lass <lass@xilinx.com> wrote in message news:<bs79d2$84a1@cliff.xsj.xilinx.com>... > > >>ISE 6.2i will support the Parallel 4 cable on Linux. >> >> > > >Thats great. So what am I supposed to do in the mean while ? > >The MultiLinx cable works today under Linux. You could try contacting your local rep, distributor or FAE and ask to borrow a MultiLinx cable until 6.2i is released. I'm betting somebody has one that they can lend you. It will work with the serial connection (not the USB connection) on your PC under Linux.>Seriously, this is a real problem, and nobody seems to have >a solution. I tries modifying the software in app 058, but >that also needs a PC piece of SW to translate svf to xsvf >files. > >Can you, Steve, or somebody else at Xilinx provide a Linux >version (or source code) for the svf to xsvf translator ? >As for creating XSVF files (if you really want to go down this path), that can be done on Linux today using iMPACT. Basically just go into iMPACT, and target an XSVF file. There is no need for the external SVF2XSVF translator in 6.1i.>Also, in the answer records, it states the schematic for >parallel cable 4 is unavailable because it is a "proprietary" >design. This seems to me really nonsense, you guys make >money with FPGAs not with cables. releasing the schematic >will enable users to support them selves when you guys >can't. Could you please ask the appropriate people to >reconsider this choice ? >I'll forward your request.>Do you have a date for 6.2i (patch?) ? >February 2004. Regards, Steve> >Thanks, >rudi >======================================================== > ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: >..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: >FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools > >
Reply by ●January 1, 20042004-01-01
Yachooo !!! I got my linux JTAG programmer working !!! Right now it is very primitive and has only been tested with Virtex devices, but my guess is that it will work with most Xilinx FPGAs. If you try this, please drop me an email with your success/failure story, I will add a summary as I go along. Also if you fix anything, please email me. If anybody (wants to make this a sourceforge project and maintain, please do so (I'll continue to be a contributor) !!! To summarize: - It works under LINUX ! YES ! - Should work with Parallel Cable 3(not tested yet) and 4 - takes a plain binary .bit file - Open/Free Source code ! YES ! Sorry could not figure out how to attach the small file to this poting using google, may be it's better this way anyway. You can download the source code from: http://www.asics.ws/tools/ljp.c.gz Best Regards, rudi ======================================================== ASICS.ws ::: Solutions for your ASIC/FPGA needs ::: ..............::: FPGAs * Full Custom ICs * IP Cores ::: FREE IP Cores -> http://www.asics.ws/ <- FREE EDA Tools
