picoblaze RS-232 using 62.5 MHz

Hi,
 I was currently using picoblaze with RS-232 with the FPGA running at
50 MHz and it worked fine. I now need to run it at 62.5 MHz. From the
information I hve gathered, to attain a baud rate of 115200, I would
need a clock frequency of 115200 * 16  = 1843200 Hz or something close
to that.

In the picobalze hdl file, there is a counter that counts 27 cycle at
50 MHz to obtain 1851851 Hz and it seems to work fine with the RS-232.
So I figure 33 cycles at 62.5 MHz to obtain 1893939 Hz should also work
but I keep getting garbage on the terminal program on the computer. I
have tried 32 cycles as well as 34 cycles without any luck.

I was wondering if anybody has tried this before and can shed some
light on the matter. Thanks a lot,
Amish

UARTS are good for a bit of a frequency mismatch but going from .47% error 
to 2.75% error appears to be too much for your system to handle.  Consider 
dividing 62.5 MHz by 34 instead to get .27% error.  It shouldn't be 
important that 1838235 Hz is less than 1843200 Hz but that it's much closer 
than 1893939 Hz.


"axr0284" <axr0284@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1168533692.658912.327530@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> I was currently using picoblaze with RS-232 with the FPGA running at
> 50 MHz and it worked fine. I now need to run it at 62.5 MHz. From the
> information I hve gathered, to attain a baud rate of 115200, I would
> need a clock frequency of 115200 * 16  = 1843200 Hz or something close
> to that.
>
> In the picobalze hdl file, there is a counter that counts 27 cycle at
> 50 MHz to obtain 1851851 Hz and it seems to work fine with the RS-232.
> So I figure 33 cycles at 62.5 MHz to obtain 1893939 Hz should also work
> but I keep getting garbage on the terminal program on the computer. I
> have tried 32 cycles as well as 34 cycles without any luck.
>
> I was wondering if anybody has tried this before and can shed some
> light on the matter. Thanks a lot,
> Amish 

I have tried that and I still get garbage. This is weird. I am
wondering if the rest of the UART has something to do with this. Maybe
additional changes need to be made.
Amish

John_H wrote:
> UARTS are good for a bit of a frequency mismatch but going from .47% error
> to 2.75% error appears to be too much for your system to handle.  Consider
> dividing 62.5 MHz by 34 instead to get .27% error.  It shouldn't be
> important that 1838235 Hz is less than 1843200 Hz but that it's much closer
> than 1893939 Hz.
>
>
> "axr0284" <axr0284@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1168533692.658912.327530@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi,
> > I was currently using picoblaze with RS-232 with the FPGA running at
> > 50 MHz and it worked fine. I now need to run it at 62.5 MHz. From the
> > information I hve gathered, to attain a baud rate of 115200, I would
> > need a clock frequency of 115200 * 16  = 1843200 Hz or something close
> > to that.
> >
> > In the picobalze hdl file, there is a counter that counts 27 cycle at
> > 50 MHz to obtain 1851851 Hz and it seems to work fine with the RS-232.
> > So I figure 33 cycles at 62.5 MHz to obtain 1893939 Hz should also work
> > but I keep getting garbage on the terminal program on the computer. I
> > have tried 32 cycles as well as 34 cycles without any luck.
> >
> > I was wondering if anybody has tried this before and can shed some
> > light on the matter. Thanks a lot,
> > Amish

I think the issue might be in my code. I'll have to debug it.
Amish

axr0284 wrote:
> I have tried that and I still get garbage. This is weird. I am
> wondering if the rest of the UART has something to do with this. Maybe
> additional changes need to be made.
> Amish
>
> John_H wrote:
> > UARTS are good for a bit of a frequency mismatch but going from .47% error
> > to 2.75% error appears to be too much for your system to handle.  Consider
> > dividing 62.5 MHz by 34 instead to get .27% error.  It shouldn't be
> > important that 1838235 Hz is less than 1843200 Hz but that it's much closer
> > than 1893939 Hz.
> >
> >
> > "axr0284" <axr0284@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1168533692.658912.327530@i56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > Hi,
> > > I was currently using picoblaze with RS-232 with the FPGA running at
> > > 50 MHz and it worked fine. I now need to run it at 62.5 MHz. From the
> > > information I hve gathered, to attain a baud rate of 115200, I would
> > > need a clock frequency of 115200 * 16  = 1843200 Hz or something close
> > > to that.
> > >
> > > In the picobalze hdl file, there is a counter that counts 27 cycle at
> > > 50 MHz to obtain 1851851 Hz and it seems to work fine with the RS-232.
> > > So I figure 33 cycles at 62.5 MHz to obtain 1893939 Hz should also work
> > > but I keep getting garbage on the terminal program on the computer. I
> > > have tried 32 cycles as well as 34 cycles without any luck.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anybody has tried this before and can shed some
> > > light on the matter. Thanks a lot,
> > > Amish

axr0284 wrote:
> I think the issue might be in my code. I'll have to debug it.
> Amish

You could try an intermediate freq, just in case your total system has
hit a speed ceiling :)

Also, check the bit timing with a scope to confirm you have the numbers

right.

Some of the better UARTS support fractional baud define, where
they do not always use 16 clks per bit, but can rate-multiply
between 15 or 16, over the Rx bits. That gives you more Xtal
freedom, and you can get closer to the precise baud rate,
or higher baudrates.

-jg

Hi,

I have used a similar approach with Ken Chapman's UARTs, where I wanted to 
run at 115200 baud with a 25 MHz reference clock.  This particular 
combination has significant mismatch with an integer enable count, so I did 
this:

always @(posedge clk)
begin
if (en_16_x_startover) en_16_x_cntr <= 0;
else en_16_x_cntr <= en_16_x_cntr + 1;
end

assign en_16_x_startover = (en_16_x_cntr == 26);
assign en_16_x_baud = (en_16_x_cntr == 26) || (en_16_x_cntr == 13);

It's always 16 enables per bit, but the enables come every 14, 13, 14, 13... 
cycles.  That was good enough to solve my problem.

Eric

"-jg" <Jim.Granville@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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>
> Some of the better UARTS support fractional baud define, where
> they do not always use 16 clks per bit, but can rate-multiply
> between 15 or 16, over the Rx bits. That gives you more Xtal
> freedom, and you can get closer to the precise baud rate,
> or higher baudrates.
>
> -jg