I was hoping to download Francesco Poderico's Picoblaze C compiler today, but unfortunately his domain is expired. Google didn't turn up any other sites from which I can download it; does anyone know of such a location, or would anyone be willing to make it available online or send me a copy? (Provided that doing so doesn't violate any license terms.) Thanks! Eric
picoblaze C compiler download wanted
Started by ●April 13, 2007
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
Eric Smith wrote:> I was hoping to download Francesco Poderico's Picoblaze C compiler > today, but unfortunately his domain is expired. Google didn't > turn up any other sites from which I can download it; does anyone > know of such a location, or would anyone be willing to make it > available online or send me a copy? (Provided that doing so > doesn't violate any license terms.)Shouldn't this be something Xilinx should sponser ? Seems a shame a tool like this vanishes, for want of a liltte infrastructure ? Or, I suppose Lattice could be interested in a Mico8 variant of this compiler, as they are quite similar cores, and Lattice are proven open-source friendly ? -jg.
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
Eric Smith <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote:>I was hoping to download Francesco Poderico's Picoblaze C compiler >today, but unfortunately his domain is expired. Google didn't >turn up any other sites from which I can download it; does anyone >know of such a location, or would anyone be willing to make it >available online or send me a copy? (Provided that doing so >doesn't violate any license terms.)Are you sure you want to use that compiler? Last time I checked it didn't seem very usefull (no optimisations at all). You're probably better of writing your program in assembly language. -- Reply to nico@nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) Bedrijven en winkels vindt U op www.adresboekje.nl
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
On Apr 14, 7:17 am, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote:> Are you sure you want to use that compiler? Last time I checked it > didn't seem very usefull (no optimisations at all). You're probably > better of writing your program in assembly language.For nearly 30 years there have been various C compilers for small micro's, ever since Ron Cain knocked off the Small-C compiler for the 8080 with a little help from me (a free SRI International PDP-11 unix account as long as the compiler was public domain). These compilers do not need to be perfect, or even great, just correct, to quickly knock off projects that would take weeks in assembler. For most, careful coding will get your project 95% of the way toward good/excellent performance, with a small amount of asm functions and tweeking at the end to meet timing goals. For a tiny PB PLD project, it might not be practical ... for a larger PB Spartan project, it might be the only quick prototyping choice that makes sense, from early concept to production.
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
Nico Coesel wrote:> Are you sure you want to use that compiler?I wanted to give it a try for use writing quick-and-dirty test programs. It's probably fine for that. Eric
Reply by ●April 14, 20072007-04-14
Symon wrote:> Google is your friend. > http://www.asm.ro/fpga/Thanks! Google definitely is my friend, but somehow I didn't spot that one in the search results.
Reply by ●April 16, 20072007-04-16
We're talking about the picoblaze here....the program space isn't large enough for ANYTHING to take weeks to write.... if it takes more than two hours to run out of program memory, you type too slow! On Apr 14, 12:35 pm, fpga_t...@yahoo.com wrote:> On Apr 14, 7:17 am, n...@puntnl.niks (Nico Coesel) wrote: > > > Are you sure you want to use that compiler? Last time I checked it > > didn't seem very usefull (no optimisations at all). You're probably > > better of writing your program in assembly language. > > For nearly 30 years there have been various C compilers for small > micro's, ever since Ron Cain knocked off the Small-C compiler for the > 8080 with a little help from me (a free SRI International PDP-11 unix > account as long as the compiler was public domain). These compilers do > not need to be perfect, or even great, just correct, to quickly knock > off projects that would take weeks in assembler. For most, careful > coding will get your project 95% of the way toward good/excellent > performance, with a small amount of asm functions and tweeking at the > end to meet timing goals. > > For a tiny PB PLD project, it might not be practical ... for a larger > PB Spartan project, it might be the only quick prototyping choice that > makes sense, from early concept to production.
Reply by ●April 16, 20072007-04-16
On Apr 16, 6:43 am, "Paul" <pauljbenn...@gmail.com> wrote:> We're talking about the picoblaze here....the program space isn't > large > enough for ANYTHING to take weeks to write.... if it takes more than > two > hours to run out of program memory, you type too slow!Test and debug in a HLL on another platform is frequently a LOT faster than steping PB thru a simulator debugging your asm. ditto for long term maintainability by a broader spectrum of engineers.
Reply by ●April 26, 20072007-04-26
On 13 Apr, 23:35, Eric Smith <e...@brouhaha.com> wrote:> I was hoping to download Francesco Poderico's Picoblaze C compiler > today, but unfortunately his domain is expired. Google didn't > turn up any other sites from which I can download it; does anyone > know of such a location, or would anyone be willing to make it > available online or send me a copy? (Provided that doing so > doesn't violate any license terms.) > > Thanks! > EricHi, I'm Francesco Poderico. I'm trying to move my domain from my old provider to a newone (cheap) Don't know why ... but this operation seems impossible because my hosting has expired before I ask to transfer my domain??? So if you need any help/latest version of the compiler please contact me at francesco_poderico@yahoo.com If in one week time from today (26/4/2007) I still did not manage ro transfer my domain then I will create a new domain. Regards, Francesco