how to choose the perfect fpga support

hi every body,
i want to implement a vhdl program into an fpga support ( the program
is compressing video ),
i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
you for your answer

On May 11, 1:09 pm, kha_vhdl <abai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi every body,
> i want to implement a vhdl program into an fpga support ( the program
> is compressing video ),
> i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
> perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
> you for your answer

Will you ever learn to ask a meaningful question, supported by
meaningful parameters?
Don't you have a teacher that can explain the basics?
Six weeks ago you asked a similar dumb question, and I answered then:

It is very frustrating to try to answer such an -excuse the harsh
word-
stupid request.
I have all the sympathy in the world for mangled english syntax,
grammar, spelling, and poor choice of words. (English is my second
language, too).
But I have no sympathy for questions that are inherently meaningless
and impossible to answer in any language on this planet.
If you are smart enough to operate a computer, you should also be
smart enough to put meaningful information into a request. Do us a
favor: Think before you type !
This newsgroup is not a baby-sitting operation.
Peter Alfke

On May 11, 2:09 pm, kha_vhdl <abai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
> perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
> you for your answer

Well, obviously you thought you were a potential Xilinx customer, by
asking the question specifically in terms of Xilinx product line.
>From Xilinx's sharp abusive reprimand, you should now understand the
basics about being a Xilinx customer -- if you are not a $100B company
with a $100M engineering budget willing to purchase $1B of Xilinx
product a year, you really don't count enough that Xilinx will be
socially respectful and polite.

Xilinx management and I have had this discussion before about CAF
abuses, and, well ... they seem unable to fix their personel issues.

I'd suggest taking a look at the Xilinx APNotes and then take a much
more careful look at your design requirements, the excellent Altera
product line, and see if you can get a respectful reply to your
questions in terms of which Altera product would be more suitable for
your project.

Why would anyone WANT do business with such an abusive company like
Xilinx?

John

This is ridiculous! Peter was as polite as one could only be with this sort 
of questions! I guess in today's overly politically correct world he could 
simply say nothing so that not to provoke comments like this, but it 
wouldn't change the fact that the OP's question was absolutely meaningless! 
Xilinx has problems but Peter is not one of them, he is in fact one of the 
greatest assets Xilinx has!

/Mikhail


<fpga_toys@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1178922716.701468.78740@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On May 11, 2:09 pm, kha_vhdl <abai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
>> perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
>> you for your answer
>
> Well, obviously you thought you were a potential Xilinx customer, by
> asking the question specifically in terms of Xilinx product line.
>>From Xilinx's sharp abusive reprimand, you should now understand the
> basics about being a Xilinx customer -- if you are not a $100B company
> with a $100M engineering budget willing to purchase $1B of Xilinx
> product a year, you really don't count enough that Xilinx will be
> socially respectful and polite.
>
> Xilinx management and I have had this discussion before about CAF
> abuses, and, well ... they seem unable to fix their personel issues.
>
> I'd suggest taking a look at the Xilinx APNotes and then take a much
> more careful look at your design requirements, the excellent Altera
> product line, and see if you can get a respectful reply to your
> questions in terms of which Altera product would be more suitable for
> your project.
>
> Why would anyone WANT do business with such an abusive company like
> Xilinx?
>
> John
> 

My nasty response had nothing to do with Xilinx policy, or to our
attitude to customers large or small. People that know me appreciate
that I love to help with either tutorial or also very specific
explanations.
But it irks me when a few students abuse this newsgroup by typing ill-
defined questions that obviously cannot be answered directly. And it
irks me double when the same student does it again.
This is a high-powered newsgroup where experienced engineers try to
give helpful answers. This forum should not be abused by really dumb
questions.
Even a student must know that parameters like frequency, data width,
standard etc are crucial, and should be included in the question.
Don't be shy, but be specific !
That was the reason for my outburst...
Peter Alfke

On May 11, 3:31 pm, fpga_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 11, 2:09 pm, kha_vhdl <abai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
> > perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
> > you for your answer
>
> Well, obviously you thought you were a potential Xilinx customer, by
> asking the question specifically in terms of Xilinx product line.>From Xilinx's sharp abusive reprimand, you should now understand the
>
> basics about being a Xilinx customer -- if you are not a $100B company
> with a $100M engineering budget willing to purchase $1B of Xilinx
> product a year, you really don't count enough that Xilinx will be
> socially respectful and polite.
>
> Xilinx management and I have had this discussion before about CAF
> abuses, and, well ... they seem unable to fix their personel issues.
>
> I'd suggest taking a look at the Xilinx APNotes and then take a much
> more careful look at your design requirements, the excellent Altera
> product line, and see if you can get a respectful reply to your
> questions in terms of which Altera product would be more suitable for
> your project.
>
> Why would anyone WANT do business with such an abusive company like
> Xilinx?
>
> John

kha_vhdl <abaidik@gmail.com> writes:
> i want know what are the basics that i should know to choose the
> perfect fpga( for example Sparta,3 or Virtex 4 into Xlinx) and thank
> you for your answer

Add the family number, pin count, the number of CLBs, three times the
number of multipliers, half the number of block RAMs, and the last
four digits of the telephone number of the local vendor sales office,
then divide by 42 for a figure of merit.  Pick the FPGA with the
highest figure of merit, unless there is a full moon, in which case
you should use the third-highest (or wait a few days).

Eric

Mikhail,

Relax.  A certain person has a vendetta against myself, Peter, and Xilinx.

We are unsure why.

It is best I not say anything more.

However, once he joins a thread, it is automatically placed on "ignore" 
as no further useful dialog can be held.



Peter and I remain willing and able to answer all questions, and we try 
to be as helpful as possible.

Our challenge is to understand why the technology is hard to understand 
(for some), and discover how to ease its adoption for people who have 
never studied programmable logic.

Please post he question in a form that details what the requirements 
are, and we ill be happy to respond.  As for this thread, any further 
Xilinx contribution is no longer possible.

Austin

On May 11, 6:36 pm, austin <aus...@xilinx.com> wrote:
> Relax.  A certain person has a vendetta against myself, Peter, and Xilinx.
>
> We are unsure why.

But Austin, no vendetta at all. I've been really clear ... be nasty to
other posters, and you set the tone for the replys. If Peter wants to
be nasty as he intends to on purpose, then so can others ... accept
it, you have certainly repeatedly asked for it.

Be nice ... others will too ... especially me.

Have fun! :)

John

On May 11, 4:56 pm, Peter Alfke <p...@xilinx.com> wrote:
> My nasty response had nothing to do with Xilinx policy, or to our
> attitude to customers large or small. People that know me appreciate

Your nasty reponse was not necessary, correct, or even justified.

If you can not take it in return, then stop trashing powerless newbie
students just because you can.

John

On 12 mai, 07:26, fpga_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 11, 6:36 pm, austin <aus...@xilinx.com> wrote:
>
> > Relax.  A certain person has a vendetta against myself, Peter, and Xilinx.
>
> > We are unsure why.
>
> But Austin, no vendetta at all. I've been really clear ... be nasty to
> other posters, and you set the tone for the replys. If Peter wants to
> be nasty as he intends to on purpose, then so can others ... accept
> it, you have certainly repeatedly asked for it.
>
> Be nice ... others will too ... especially me.
>
> Have fun! :)
>
> John

hi i m sorry , but you should know that i m beginner , i m not
professional so it is normal that for now i m asking stupid questions