Virtex-5 FXT coming soon?

Hi,

the fact that forum posting about ML507 was removed by Xilinx
moderator (from Xiliinx forums), gives us at least the information
that ML507 is a Virtex-5FXT development board. This should mean that
the FXT silicon will soon be announced. Sure many of us hoped FXT some
years ago already.

Antti

I talked to Xilinx at the embedded world in N=FCrnberg about that.

There are samples available know for special customers now.
To mortals like us the FXT samples will be available in a few months.
There will be no FX without power PC.
At least some FXT will be almost pin compatible to LXT devices.

Kolja

On 3 Mrz., 08:56, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the fact that forum posting about ML507 was removed by Xilinx
> moderator (from Xiliinx forums), gives us at least the information
> that ML507 is a Virtex-5FXT development board. This should mean that
> the FXT silicon will soon be announced. Sure many of us hoped FXT some
> years ago already.
>
> Antti

On 3 Mrz., 09:28, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I talked to Xilinx at the embedded world in N=FCrnberg about that.
>
> There are samples available know for special customers now.
> To mortals like us the FXT samples will be available in a few months.
> There will be no FX without power PC.
> At least some FXT will be almost pin compatible to LXT devices.
>
> Kolja
>
> On 3 Mrz., 08:56, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > the fact that forum posting about ML507 was removed by Xilinx
> > moderator (from Xiliinx forums), gives us at least the information
> > that ML507 is a Virtex-5FXT development board. This should mean that
> > the FXT silicon will soon be announced. Sure many of us hoped FXT some
> > years ago already.
>
> > Antti

Hi Kolja

eh I was so busy at embedded while demonstrating the portable XSVF
player
(well at Atmel i said its AVR ISP programmer of course) and talking to
you
that I totally forgot to ask anything at Xilinx stand :)

but if RAD HARD V5FX are expected end of the year, then I would have
very firm thumb guess that FX samples are there NOW, and possible
have been delivered to some special customers some while ago.

but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...

The Spartan-4 is much more interesting, but I guess there is much
leaked out yet,
except rumors that we might expect more on chip special functions --
USB anyone??

Antti

On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
> to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,

Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
replaced
by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.

Kolja Sulimma

On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>
> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
> replaced
> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.
>
> Kolja Sulimma

well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed of
MGTs
V4 less than V2
V5 less than V4

so you may need wait V6 :(

Antti

"Antti" <Antti.Lukats@googlemail.com> wrote in message 
news:ee42d07c-3062-489e-93b1-d9afa01fbbac@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
>> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>>
>> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>>
>> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
>> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
>> replaced
>> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.
>>
>> Kolja Sulimma
>
> well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed of
> MGTs
> V4 less than V2
> V5 less than V4
>
> so you may need wait V6 :(
>
> Antti
>

V6? Don't hold your breath.

A reliable source tells me that the 10Gbps serdes will be fully functional 
in V12 Pro (they're skipping V13 for obvious reasons).

Bob

On Mar 3, 10:22 am, "BobW" <nimby_NEEDS...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> "Antti" <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ee42d07c-3062-489e-93b1-d9afa01fbbac@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
> >> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> >> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>
> >> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
> >> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
> >> replaced
> >> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.
>
> >> Kolja Sulimma
>
> > well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed of
> > MGTs
> > V4 less than V2
> > V5 less than V4
>
> > so you may need wait V6 :(
>
> > Antti
>
> V6? Don't hold your breath.
>
> A reliable source tells me that the 10Gbps serdes will be fully functional
> in V12 Pro (they're skipping V13 for obvious reasons).
>
> Bob

I would check with Altera on Serdes as they have done it right and
have been up to 6 Gbps for years.

On Mar 23, 4:01 pm, pmull...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Mar 3, 10:22 am, "BobW" <nimby_NEEDS...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > "Antti" <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ee42d07c-3062-489e-93b1-d9afa01fbbac@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
> > >> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> > >> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>
> > >> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
> > >> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
> > >> replaced
> > >> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.
>
> > >> Kolja Sulimma
>
> > > well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed of
> > > MGTs
> > > V4 less than V2
> > > V5 less than V4
>
> > > so you may need wait V6 :(
>
> > > Antti
>
> > V6? Don't hold your breath.
>
> > A reliable source tells me that the 10Gbps serdes will be fully functional
> > in V12 Pro (they're skipping V13 for obvious reasons).
>
> > Bob
>
> I would check with Altera on Serdes as they have done it right and
> have been up to 6 Gbps for years.

As shown on the homepage of Xilinx, the new Virtex5 FXT is out now.
Does anybody know whether there is development board featured with
Virtex5 FXT available? Is that ML507, if so where is the info or data
sheet for this board?

Simon

On Apr 5, 11:12=A0am, Simon <wlpstx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 4:01 pm, pmull...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 10:22 am, "BobW" <nimby_NEEDS...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Antti" <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:ee42d07c-3062-489e-93b1-d9afa01fbbac@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com.=
..
>
> > > > On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost int=
erest
> > > >> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> > > >> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>
> > > >> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
> > > >> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
> > > >> replaced
> > > >> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports=
.
>
> > > >> Kolja Sulimma
>
> > > > well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed o=
f
> > > > MGTs
> > > > V4 less than V2
> > > > V5 less than V4
>
> > > > so you may need wait V6 :(
>
> > > > Antti
>
> > > V6? Don't hold your breath.
>
> > > A reliable source tells me that the 10Gbps serdes will be fully functi=
onal
> > > in V12 Pro (they're skipping V13 for obvious reasons).
>
> > > Bob
>
> > I would check with Altera on Serdes as they have done it right and
> > have been up to 6 Gbps for years.
>
> As shown on the homepage of Xilinx, the new Virtex5 FXT is out now.
> Does anybody know whether there is development board featured with
> Virtex5 FXT available? Is that ML507, if so where is the info or data
> sheet for this board?
>
> Simon

To the best of my knowledge, the ML507 board is identical in layout
and appearance with the ML505 board, since the 'LXT and 'FXT chips are
pin-compatible.
Let's see on Monday at work...
Peter Alfke

On Apr 6, 1:05 am, Peter Alfke <al...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 11:12 am, Simon <wlpstx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 23, 4:01 pm, pmull...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 3, 10:22 am, "BobW" <nimby_NEEDS...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "Antti" <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> > > >news:ee42d07c-3062-489e-93b1-d9afa01fbbac@y77g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > On 3 Mrz., 17:15, Kolja Sulimma <ksuli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> On 3 Mrz., 11:20, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> > but as the V5FX has been delaying so long, I have almost lost interest
> > > > >> > to follow up how much longer it is delaying in reality...
>
> > > > >> > The Spartan-4 is much more interesting,
>
> > > > >> Well, we are desperately waiting for the V5 MGTs.
> > > > >> Actually we need a solution for 10gbps soon as XAUI is going to be
> > > > >> replaced
> > > > >> by SFP+ really soon. We can't place external 10G serdes on 12 ports.
>
> > > > >> Kolja Sulimma
>
> > > > > well EVERY new xilinx family since V2ProX is DOWNGRADING the speed of
> > > > > MGTs
> > > > > V4 less than V2
> > > > > V5 less than V4
>
> > > > > so you may need wait V6 :(
>
> > > > > Antti
>
> > > > V6? Don't hold your breath.
>
> > > > A reliable source tells me that the 10Gbps serdes will be fully functional
> > > > in V12 Pro (they're skipping V13 for obvious reasons).
>
> > > > Bob
>
> > > I would check with Altera on Serdes as they have done it right and
> > > have been up to 6 Gbps for years.
>
> > As shown on the homepage of Xilinx, the new Virtex5 FXT is out now.
> > Does anybody know whether there is development board featured with
> > Virtex5 FXT available? Is that ML507, if so where is the info or data
> > sheet for this board?
>
> > Simon
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the ML507 board is identical in layout
> and appearance with the ML505 board, since the 'LXT and 'FXT chips are
> pin-compatible.
> Let's see on Monday at work...
> Peter Alfke


Is that possible to have a customised ML523 board armed with Virtex5
FXT instead of LXT?

Simon