Hi All, A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now available. The following improvements and changes are new since the last version. 1) Changed the user interface to be more windows like. Click to select objects. Hold Ctrl key down and click to select multiple objects. Click in empty area to deselect all the select objects. 2) Drag the mouse anytime draws a select rectangle to select objects. Previously, you needed to hold down the alt and drag 3) Fixed saving images to selected directory in file chooser dialog. 4) Changed all DTT object references to PulseWidthLabel objects. 5) Fixed all commands that move edges do not move DigitalClocks edges now. 6) Changed Ctrl Up key combination to Alt Up when moving delay, constraint, and PulseWidthLabels up in the diagram. Ctrl Up is used by the JTabbedPane so users can hit Ctrl up and left and right to select a diagram in other tab panes. 7) Save as dialog does not display when just saving (Ctrl-S). When exiting the application, the save as dialog displays for each file that has been modified by not saved. 8) Fixed file needs to be saved when selecting or deselecting objects. 9) Standard Edition Features enabled until 9/13/08 for trail and testing. All beta versions will have the SE features enabled until the final release. 10) Working SE Features currently include savings images in other formats such as eps, pdf, svg, png, and gif, and also the scripting interface. You can download and use it at: www.timing-diagrams.com
ANNOUNCE: TimingAnalyzer version beta 0.87
Started by ●July 19, 2008
Reply by ●July 19, 20082008-07-19
On Jul 19, 2:11 pm, timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, > > A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now available. > The following improvements and changes are new since the last version....snip... Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and announce your product releases there? That is what most projects like yours do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no different from other spam. How about you give it a rest? Besides, I think you are over estimating the demand for your product. I have only seen a small indication of any interest in this product. If it is any good and there is a need, customers will find you by word of mouth. Rick
Reply by ●July 19, 20082008-07-19
On Jul 19, 3:11 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:> On Jul 19, 2:11 pm, timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, > > > A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now available. > > The following improvements and changes are new since the last version. > > ...snip... > > Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and announce > your product releases there? That is what most projects like yours > do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no different from > other spam. > > How about you give it a rest? Besides, I think you are over > estimating the demand for your product. I have only seen a small > indication of any interest in this product. If it is any good and > there is a need, customers will find you by word of mouth. > > RickHello Rick, I didn't think it would considered spam if it's related to the subject of the newsgroup but I guess you have a good point. I won't announce updates to the program on the newsgroups anymore. You might be right about the interest level as well. Time will tell. There seems to more interest with ASIC and VLSI design engineers needing ways to document complex interface timing diagrams and generating test vectors. That was why I decided to develop the program in the first place. -Dan -Dan
Reply by ●July 19, 20082008-07-19
timinganalyzer wrote:> rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, >> >>> A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now >>> available. The following improvements and changes are new since >>< the last version. >> >> ...snip... >> >> Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and >> announce your product releases there? That is what most projects >> like yours do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no >> different from other spam. >... snip ...> > I didn't think it would considered spam if it's related to the > subject of the newsgroup but I guess you have a good point. I > won't announce updates to the program on the newsgroups anymore. > > You might be right about the interest level as well. Time will > tell. There seems to more interest with ASIC and VLSI design > engineers needing ways to document complex interface timing > diagrams and generating test vectors. That was why I decided to > develop the program in the first place.I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. Without this sort of announcement interested users will never know it exists. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.
Reply by ●July 19, 20082008-07-19
CBFalconer wrote:> timinganalyzer wrote: >> rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, >>> >>>> A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now >>>> available. The following improvements and changes are new since >>> < the last version. >>> >>> ...snip... >>> >>> Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and >>> announce your product releases there? That is what most projects >>> like yours do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no >>> different from other spam. > ... snip ... >> I didn't think it would considered spam if it's related to the >> subject of the newsgroup but I guess you have a good point. I >> won't announce updates to the program on the newsgroups anymore. >> >> You might be right about the interest level as well. Time will >> tell. There seems to more interest with ASIC and VLSI design >> engineers needing ways to document complex interface timing >> diagrams and generating test vectors. That was why I decided to >> develop the program in the first place. > > I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. > Without this sort of announcement interested users will never know > it exists.I don't consider it spam either. Instead of a complete accounting of new features, Rickman might be happier with a brief announcement that alerts the reader to new material on the website. Personally, I don't care. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●July 20, 20082008-07-20
On Jul 19, 7:37 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote:> CBFalconer wrote: > > timinganalyzer wrote: > >> rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, > > >>>> A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now > >>>> available. The following improvements and changes are new since > >>> < the last version. > > >>> ...snip... > > >>> Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and > >>> announce your product releases there? That is what most projects > >>> like yours do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no > >>> different from other spam. > > ... snip ... > >> I didn't think it would considered spam if it's related to the > >> subject of the newsgroup but I guess you have a good point. I > >> won't announce updates to the program on the newsgroups anymore. > > >> You might be right about the interest level as well. Time will > >> tell. There seems to more interest with ASIC and VLSI design > >> engineers needing ways to document complex interface timing > >> diagrams and generating test vectors. That was why I decided to > >> develop the program in the first place. > > > I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. > > Without this sort of announcement interested users will never know > > it exists. > > I don't consider it spam either. Instead of a complete accounting of new > features, Rickman might be happier with a brief announcement that alerts > the reader to new material on the website. Personally, I don't care.Are you and CBF OK with *any* vendor of hardware, software, tools, components, boards or materials related to embedded, FPGA, DSP or VHDL/ Verilog posting here to advertise their products? The fact that this software offers a free version with limited features does not make it unique. There are any number of software vendors that do the same thing. Many component manufacturers offer free samples. Even makers of tools, boards, systems and test equipment will let you use their products for evaluation. Is there something special about this vendor and his product? Personally I feel that his posts are not on topic. Selling and marketing is not the topic of any of these groups. Rick
Reply by ●July 20, 20082008-07-20
rickman wrote:> On Jul 19, 7:37 pm, Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: >> CBFalconer wrote: >>> timinganalyzer wrote: >>>> rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> timinganalyzer <timinganaly...@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, >>>>>> A new version of the TimingAnalyzer, beta 0.87, is now >>>>>> available. The following improvements and changes are new since >>>>> < the last version. >>>>> ...snip... >>>>> Could I suggest that you add a forum to your web site and >>>>> announce your product releases there? That is what most projects >>>>> like yours do. Announcing it in multiple newsgroups is really no >>>>> different from other spam. >>> ... snip ... >>>> I didn't think it would considered spam if it's related to the >>>> subject of the newsgroup but I guess you have a good point. I >>>> won't announce updates to the program on the newsgroups anymore. >>>> You might be right about the interest level as well. Time will >>>> tell. There seems to more interest with ASIC and VLSI design >>>> engineers needing ways to document complex interface timing >>>> diagrams and generating test vectors. That was why I decided to >>>> develop the program in the first place. >>> I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. >>> Without this sort of announcement interested users will never know >>> it exists. >> I don't consider it spam either. Instead of a complete accounting of new >> features, Rickman might be happier with a brief announcement that alerts >> the reader to new material on the website. Personally, I don't care. > > Are you and CBF OK with *any* vendor of hardware, software, tools, > components, boards or materials related to embedded, FPGA, DSP or VHDL/ > Verilog posting here to advertise their products? The fact that this > software offers a free version with limited features does not make it > unique. There are any number of software vendors that do the same > thing. Many component manufacturers offer free samples. Even makers > of tools, boards, systems and test equipment will let you use their > products for evaluation. > > Is there something special about this vendor and his product? > > Personally I feel that his posts are not on topic. Selling and > marketing is not the topic of any of these groups.There is something special about this vendor, if not his product. He has made something on his own that he hopes is useful, and has no budget to make it known. He came to us initially for advice, which he heeded despite the criticism that was unfortunately necessary. If nothing else, I'm happy to give him a bye. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. �����������������������������������������������������������������������
Reply by ●July 20, 20082008-07-20
rickman wrote:> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: >> CBFalconer wrote: >>... snip ...>> >>> I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. >>> Without this sort of announcement interested users will never >>> know it exists. >> >> I don't consider it spam either. Instead of a complete accounting >> of new features, Rickman might be happier with a brief >> announcement that alerts the reader to new material on the >> website. Personally, I don't care. > > Are you and CBF OK with *any* vendor of hardware, software, tools, > components, boards or materials related to embedded, FPGA, DSP or > VHDL/ Verilog posting here to advertise their products? The fact > that this software offers a free version with limited features > does not make it unique. There are any number of software vendors > that do the same thing. Many component manufacturers offer free > samples. Even makers of tools, boards, systems and test equipment > will let you use their products for evaluation. > > Is there something special about this vendor and his product? > > Personally I feel that his posts are not on topic. Selling and > marketing is not the topic of any of these groups.As far as I can tell the source is available, and there is no long-term commercial interest. This puts it in the same classification as Linux. He is not selling - he is offering. -- [mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net) [page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net> Try the download section.
Reply by ●July 20, 20082008-07-20
CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> writes:> rickman wrote: >> Jerry Avins <j...@ieee.org> wrote: >>> CBFalconer wrote: >>> > ... snip ... >>> >>>> I don't consider it spam. It is available, free, and pertinent. >>>> Without this sort of announcement interested users will never >>>> know it exists. >>> >>> I don't consider it spam either. Instead of a complete accounting >>> of new features, Rickman might be happier with a brief >>> announcement that alerts the reader to new material on the >>> website. Personally, I don't care. >> >> Are you and CBF OK with *any* vendor of hardware, software, tools, >> components, boards or materials related to embedded, FPGA, DSP or >> VHDL/ Verilog posting here to advertise their products? The fact >> that this software offers a free version with limited features >> does not make it unique. There are any number of software vendors >> that do the same thing. Many component manufacturers offer free >> samples. Even makers of tools, boards, systems and test equipment >> will let you use their products for evaluation. >> >> Is there something special about this vendor and his product? >> >> Personally I feel that his posts are not on topic. Selling and >> marketing is not the topic of any of these groups. > > As far as I can tell the source is available,But you are not allowed to look at it <http://www.timing-diagrams.com/license.html> "You may not modify, reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble the TimingAnalyzer program."> and there is no long-term commercial interest. This puts it in the > same classification as Linux. He is not selling - he is offering...."You must buy a license to use TimingAnalyzer Standard Edition(SE)"... It appears to be a commercial program, free for personal, non-commercial use only. So I agree with rickman. -- John Devereux
Reply by ●July 20, 20082008-07-20
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:03:58 -0400, Jerry Avins <jya@ieee.org> wrote:>rickman wrote:>> Are you and CBF OK with *any* vendor of hardware, software, tools, >> components, boards or materials related to embedded, FPGA, DSP or VHDL/ >> Verilog posting here to advertise their products?A salient difference is that the posts were not simply (or even mostly) advertising but rather were part of a conversation about the features, operation, and behaviors of a useful tool that was under development. Boy, it sure would suck if the product development engineers from Xilinx or Atmel or whatever would hang around here and do that, eh?>> The fact that this >> software offers a free version with limited features does not make it >> unique. There are any number of software vendors that do the same >> thing. Many component manufacturers offer free samples. Even makers >> of tools, boards, systems and test equipment will let you use their >> products for evaluation. >> >> Is there something special about this vendor and his product?Other than soliciting and responding to community feedback?>> Personally I feel that his posts are not on topic. Selling and >> marketing is not the topic of any of these groups.Personally, I feel that the joker who keeps littering the groups with "Spam" posts is more of a menace.>There is something special about this vendor, if not his product. He has >made something on his own that he hopes is useful, and has no budget to >make it known. He came to us initially for advice, which he heeded >despite the criticism that was unfortunately necessary. If nothing else, >I'm happy to give him a bye.Indeed. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
