ED 9.2 too new cygwin error

I just wanted to make a smalll change so launched  EDK 9.2 (poroject
was done with 9.2)
but no luck EDK happily report it
FOUND cygwin (why should it say that? I dont wannt know it, as i want
EDK not cygwin!)

when i tried to build the  project it says CAN NOT USE cygwin NEWER
than 1.24 !?

does it really mean taht EACH EDK/ISE version has ot be canned into
special VM virutal machine
with the set of CORRECT cygwin version, etc....? ??

maybe there sis some hidden switch to enable cygwin newer than 1.24
or??

i havent touched Xilinx tools for a 2 months maybe
now after 2 minutes I am already frustrated

Xilinx wants to be THE leading FPGA company
they defenetly lead with shitty software and frustrated customers

Antti

On Sep 1, 7:28=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I just wanted to make a smalll change so launched =A0EDK 9.2 (poroject
> was done with 9.2)
> but no luck EDK happily report it
> FOUND cygwin (why should it say that? I dont wannt know it, as i want
> EDK not cygwin!)
>
> when i tried to build the =A0project it says CAN NOT USE cygwin NEWER
> than 1.24 !?
>
> does it really mean taht EACH EDK/ISE version has ot be canned into
> special VM virutal machine
> with the set of CORRECT cygwin version, etc....? ??
>
> maybe there sis some hidden switch to enable cygwin newer than 1.24
> or??
>
> i havent touched Xilinx tools for a 2 months maybe
> now after 2 minutes I am already frustrated
>
> Xilinx wants to be THE leading FPGA company
> they defenetly lead with shitty software and frustrated customers
>
> Antti

The problem w/ EDK is that it uses Cygwin to emulate a POSIX
environment under windows. You can blame that one on Billy Gates.

When you install EDK it will detect if you have Cygwin already
installed. If it finds it, it won't use its own version and just use
the one you have. I think that's a nice feature. I'd rather not have
10 different copies of Cygwin running around :P. Problem is that
version of the Cygwin tools that ship with EDK were built for an older
version of Cygwin. As such, if you have a newer version installed you
can run into version compatibility issues. In the previous versions of
EDK, it just used it and you had to guess why they failed.

Right now my EDK 9.2 is using the Cygwin installed by EDK 9.1.

On 1 sept, 16:09, morphiend <morphi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 1, 7:28=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I just wanted to make a smalll change so launched =A0EDK 9.2 (poroject
> > was done with 9.2)
> > but no luck EDK happily report it
> > FOUND cygwin (why should it say that? I dont wannt know it, as i want
> > EDK not cygwin!)
>
> > when i tried to build the =A0project it says CAN NOT USE cygwin NEWER
> > than 1.24 !?
>
> > does it really mean taht EACH EDK/ISE version has ot be canned into
> > special VM virutal machine
> > with the set of CORRECT cygwin version, etc....? ??
>
> > maybe there sis some hidden switch to enable cygwin newer than 1.24
> > or??
>
> > i havent touched Xilinx tools for a 2 months maybe
> > now after 2 minutes I am already frustrated
>
> > Xilinx wants to be THE leading FPGA company
> > they defenetly lead with shitty software and frustrated customers
>
> > Antti
>
> The problem w/ EDK is that it uses Cygwin to emulate a POSIX
> environment under windows. You can blame that one on Billy Gates.
>
> When you install EDK it will detect if you have Cygwin already
> installed. If it finds it, it won't use its own version and just use
> the one you have. I think that's a nice feature. I'd rather not have
> 10 different copies of Cygwin running around :P. Problem is that
> version of the Cygwin tools that ship with EDK were built for an older
> version of Cygwin. As such, if you have a newer version installed you
> can run into version compatibility issues. In the previous versions of
> EDK, it just used it and you had to guess why they failed.
>
> Right now my EDK 9.2 is using the Cygwin installed by EDK 9.1.

Yeah, I know the old "blame bill gates" excuse, but there are
companies who are able to ship WORKING software no matter
the posix and billgates whining

if EDK can scope with cygwin 1.25 it should provide an option
to select an alternative version, or for heavens sake even downgrade
the current one, what ever, it must be able to WORK once it is
able to start.

software is expected to work, not make customers unhappy

Antti

On Sep 1, 6:09=A0am, morphiend <morphi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When you install EDK it will detect if you have Cygwin already
> installed. If it finds it, it won't use its own version and just use
> the one you have. I think that's a nice feature.

I think it is a *terrible* feature.  If EDK just uses it's own version
of cygwin, it *always* works.  By trying to use who-knows-what version
that happens to be installed, it might work, it might not, it might
work sometimes.  This is not a good situation.  (and how many times
will I have to down rev make?!?)

> I'd rather not have 10 different copies of Cygwin running around :P.

I think the number of copies would be closer to two.  Or perhaps you
are using binary?
:-)

Alan Nishioka

On Sep 1, 11:01=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> software is expected to work, not make customers unhappy

You're also talking about a company that at the same time a new
release is available a service pack is available for download too.

Personally, I like the feature since only have to configure one
environment. EDK should be smart enough to detect the cygwin DLL
version during install and default it self at that time.

Here's an Answer Record on how to fix it though:
http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/23716.htm

HTH,
-- Mike

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT), morphiend <morphiend@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 1, 11:01&#4294967295;am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> software is expected to work, not make customers unhappy
>
>You're also talking about a company that at the same time a new
>release is available a service pack is available for download too.
>
>Personally, I like the feature since only have to configure one
>environment. EDK should be smart enough to detect the cygwin DLL
>version during install and default it self at that time.
>
>Here's an Answer Record on how to fix it though:
>http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/23716.htm

And another one, which solved my Cygwin problem
http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/24134.htm
(changed handling of CRLF in text files)

Any more?

- Brian

On 2 sept, 03:03, Brian Drummond <brian_drumm...@btconnect.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT), morphiend <morphi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 1, 11:01=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >> software is expected to work, not make customers unhappy
>
> >You're also talking about a company that at the same time a new
> >release is available a service pack is available for download too.
>
> >Personally, I like the feature since only have to configure one
> >environment. EDK should be smart enough to detect the cygwin DLL
> >version during install and default it self at that time.
>
> >Here's an Answer Record on how to fix it though:
> >http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/23716.htm
>
> And another one, which solved my Cygwin problemhttp://www.xilinx.com/supp=
ort/answers/24134.htm
> (changed handling of CRLF in text files)
>
> Any more?
>
> - Brian

well i solved it myself, its really trivial

ren E:\Cygwin E:\CygwinIsXilinxBugTheyDontCareToFix

that fixes it

I was so happy!
I did run the project and it PASSED no errors!

but too early...
I did run clean all
and rebuild

and now I got Xilinx REANME error
damnit
i had the reanme error before
and i just do not recall i had it fixed
i am trying again to fix the reanme error, but this time no luck
the project is not building anymore and thats it
nor does any other project build!
and all those project have been building ok on the same PC
with same EDK no updates or service packs installed!

wait.. maybe the problem is that Xilinx supports only customers?
and they know that i have consumed over 10K of actel silicon lately?
hm.. i have disabled Xilinx talkback? so googletoolbarnotifier maybe?

Xilinx - I would be real happy to consume xxx Xilinx silicon, but
so far Xilinx has NONE to offer for cost sensitive consumer
market area where also protection against design theft is a consern
and PCB are may also be at premium.
(Actel, Lattice and SiliconBlue all have products for that area)

And please do not go say SiliconBlue products do not exist
their device samples and devkit are currently in transit via
express to me

Xilinx the reason I once again tried to work with Xilinx tools EDK
was to provide support for the accesory board I have designed for
Xilinx development boards.

This accessory board has been sold to more then 300 Xilinx
customers by our distribution partner who also is Xilinx Alliance
Partner.

I would hope that this is enough reason for Xilinx consider me as
someone who deserves to have WORKING xilinx tools not tools
that fail because Xilinx software folks can not spell out RENAME and
write reanme ???

Antti
eh I missed a little its 3 hours past monday
(I used to be angry because of xilinx bugs on mondays)

On 2 sept, 03:36, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 2 sept, 03:03, Brian Drummond <brian_drumm...@btconnect.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:00:06 -0700 (PDT), morphiend <morphi...@gmail.com=
>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Sep 1, 11:01=A0am, Antti <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> software is expected to work, not make customers unhappy
>
> > >You're also talking about a company that at the same time a new
> > >release is available a service pack is available for download too.
>
> > >Personally, I like the feature since only have to configure one
> > >environment. EDK should be smart enough to detect the cygwin DLL
> > >version during install and default it self at that time.
>
> > >Here's an Answer Record on how to fix it though:
> > >http://www.xilinx.com/support/answers/23716.htm
>
> > And another one, which solved my Cygwin problemhttp://www.xilinx.com/su=
pport/answers/24134.htm
> > (changed handling of CRLF in text files)
>
> > Any more?
>
> > - Brian
>
> well i solved it myself, its really trivial
>
> ren E:\Cygwin E:\CygwinIsXilinxBugTheyDontCareToFix
>
> that fixes it
>
> I was so happy!
> I did run the project and it PASSED no errors!
>
> but too early...
> I did run clean all
> and rebuild
>
> and now I got Xilinx REANME error
> damnit
> i had the reanme error before
> and i just do not recall i had it fixed
> i am trying again to fix the reanme error, but this time no luck
> the project is not building anymore and thats it
> nor does any other project build!
> and all those project have been building ok on the same PC
> with same EDK no updates or service packs installed!
>
> wait.. maybe the problem is that Xilinx supports only customers?
> and they know that i have consumed over 10K of actel silicon lately?
> hm.. i have disabled Xilinx talkback? so googletoolbarnotifier maybe?
>
> Xilinx - I would be real happy to consume xxx Xilinx silicon, but
> so far Xilinx has NONE to offer for cost sensitive consumer
> market area where also protection against design theft is a consern
> and PCB are may also be at premium.
> (Actel, Lattice and SiliconBlue all have products for that area)
>
> And please do not go say SiliconBlue products do not exist
> their device samples and devkit are currently in transit via
> express to me
>
> Xilinx the reason I once again tried to work with Xilinx tools EDK
> was to provide support for the accesory board I have designed for
> Xilinx development boards.
>
> This accessory board has been sold to more then 300 Xilinx
> customers by our distribution partner who also is Xilinx Alliance
> Partner.
>
> I would hope that this is enough reason for Xilinx consider me as
> someone who deserves to have WORKING xilinx tools not tools
> that fail because Xilinx software folks can not spell out RENAME and
> write reanme ???
>
> Antti
> eh I missed a little its 3 hours past monday
> (I used to be angry because of xilinx bugs on mondays)


Ah solved!

google remembered what I had solved before :)

the reanme error does come because anti virus is classifying ISE9.2SP4
as a Virus (my wife says: right so!)
ok, all i need todo is disable the antivirus and it will work (as i
recall this is only relevant for 9.2SP4!)

Antti