What happens at opencores.org?

Hi all,

looks like opencores.org changes it's hosting strategies
without asking their user and core providers.
At the moment the CVS access is down and it looks like
they changed to SVN. Without a notice to the core providers.

Any more information on this?

Cheers,
Martin 

On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:36:44 +0100, Martin Schoeberl wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> looks like opencores.org changes it's hosting strategies without asking
> their user and core providers. At the moment the CVS access is down and
> it looks like they changed to SVN. Without a notice to the core
> providers.
> 
Hi Martin,

ORSoC AB, who took over responsibility for OpenCores in late 2007, have 
reimplemented the entire website back end. The switch over was earlier 
this week, but I believe has been in planning since the take over. At the 
same time they have switched to Subversion.

The website is mostly back up, and subversion access seems to work. The 
old mailing lists are now web based forums with email notification. I 
suggest you try posting there to try to get more information.

HTH,


Jeremy

The OpenCores team are putting in enormous resources in making sure
that
the OpenCores will continue to exist/expand. It is important that the
platform can continue to support good services to both
users and core-providers, also for the next 10-20 years. If possible
it is
also good if we can provide an even greater =93trust=94 and =93quality=94 i=
n
the
cores at OpenCores.

The complete redesign of the OpenCores-platform enable us to support
all
users with a future-proof and professional site. It also support
integrating
new functionalities much easier then before, since the old
platform had grown out of proportion.


We feel that we have listen to the community, since we get allot of
Feedback - i.e. complaining about poor statistics, forum structure,
etc. But
unfortunately we also get some few complaints from a small portion of
users
that are just against all changes :-(


But for those users who has more concrete suggestion/ideas/
improvements,
feel free to contact us at oc-team@opencores.org



Best regards,

The OC-team

On 13 Mar, 13:21, marcus.erlands...@gmail.com wrote:
> The OpenCores team are putting in enormous resources in making sure
> that
> the OpenCores will continue to exist/expand. It is important that the
> platform can continue to support good services to both
> users and core-providers, also for the next 10-20 years. If possible
> it is
> also good if we can provide an even greater =93trust=94 and =93quality=94=
 in
> the
> cores at OpenCores.
>
> The complete redesign of the OpenCores-platform enable us to support
> all
> users with a future-proof and professional site. It also support
> integrating
> new functionalities much easier then before, since the old
> platform had grown out of proportion.
>
> We feel that we have listen to the community, since we get allot of
> Feedback - i.e. complaining about poor statistics, forum structure,
> etc. But
> unfortunately we also get some few complaints from a small portion of
> users
> that are just against all changes :-(
>
> But for those users who has more concrete suggestion/ideas/
> improvements,
> feel free to contact us at oc-t...@opencores.org
>
> Best regards,
>
> The OC-team

it seems that many links are now dead or then project deleted :(

too bad

Antti

On Mar 13, 6:10=A0pm, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
<Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 13 Mar, 13:21, marcus.erlands...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > The OpenCores team are putting in enormous resources in making sure
> > that
> > the OpenCores will continue to exist/expand. It is important that the
> > platform can continue to support good services to both
> > users and core-providers, also for the next 10-20 years. If possible
> > it is
> > also good if we can provide an even greater =93trust=94 and =93quality=
=94 in
> > the
> > cores at OpenCores.
>
> > The complete redesign of the OpenCores-platform enable us to support
> > all
> > users with a future-proof and professional site. It also support
> > integrating
> > new functionalities much easier then before, since the old
> > platform had grown out of proportion.
>
> > We feel that we have listen to the community, since we get allot of
> > Feedback - i.e. complaining about poor statistics, forum structure,
> > etc. But
> > unfortunately we also get some few complaints from a small portion of
> > users
> > that are just against all changes :-(
>
> > But for those users who has more concrete suggestion/ideas/
> > improvements,
> > feel free to contact us at oc-t...@opencores.org
>
> > Best regards,
>
> > The OC-team
>
> it seems that many links are now dead or then project deleted :(
>
> too bad
>
> Antti

Hi Antti.
Actually, there are more project now visible, then before. But some
projects where started 2000-2004, but never completed and no one has
updated the project ever since. These project will be moved to another
category shortly, so that it is clear to all users which project that
are ready and not. Send an email to oc-team@opencores.org and let us
know what project has been deleted, so that we can double check this.

As for the links, we will be fixing allot of the "broken" links within
the next coming weeks..


Best regards,
The OC-team

>> looks like opencores.org changes it's hosting strategies without asking
>> their user and core providers. At the moment the CVS access is down and
>> it looks like they changed to SVN. Without a notice to the core
>> providers.
>>
> Hi Martin,
>
> ORSoC AB, who took over responsibility for OpenCores in late 2007, have
> reimplemented the entire website back end. The switch over was earlier
> this week, but I believe has been in planning since the take over. At the
> same time they have switched to Subversion.

That is ok - we shall not start to discuss if CVS or SVN is better
(or git ;-). However, the switch was never announced to the developers.
We did notice it from the fact that the CVS access just did not work
anymore. If you're in a critcal development phase that's no fun when
you have to switch the repository system without planning ahead....

Cheers,
Martin 

Hi Marcus,

I did post my complain about opencores to this group as my comments
on the redesign and the new rules on access policies have been
filtered out from the oc mailing list.

Let's say it friendly: I don't think it's the best policy to censor
slightly critical comments on a list for discussion on open-source
projects.

And now here my original complains from around half year ago ;-) I don't
like that access to open-source projects is restricted to registered
user because:
    1. that's in my opinion against the OS philosophy
    2. it makes is uncomfortable to 'just check a project'
    3. sending a link to one of my files in the CVS web view is not
    practical anymore
    4. it spams the list of possible developers. When I want to add
    one to the project it takes minutes to find that person in a web
    list box that contains hundreds (or more) entries

I really liked opencores, but I get the feeling that it is controlled
too much, or in a way I don't like...

BTW: I'm not a user who is against all changes.

Cheers,
Martin

----- Original Message -----
From: <marcus.erlandsson@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch.fpga Sent:
Friday, March 13, 2009 12:21 PM Subject: Re: What happens at
opencores.org?


The OpenCores team are putting in enormous resources in making sure
that the OpenCores will continue to exist/expand. It is important
that the platform can continue to support good services to both users
and core-providers, also for the next 10-20 years. If possible it is
also good if we can provide an even greater &#4294967295;trust&#4294967295; and &#4294967295;quality&#4294967295; in
the cores at OpenCores.

The complete redesign of the OpenCores-platform enable us to support
all users with a future-proof and professional site. It also support
integrating new functionalities much easier then before, since the
old platform had grown out of proportion.


We feel that we have listen to the community, since we get allot of
Feedback - i.e. complaining about poor statistics, forum structure,
etc. But unfortunately we also get some few complaints from a small
portion of users that are just against all changes :-(


But for those users who has more concrete suggestion/ideas/
improvements, feel free to contact us at oc-team@opencores.org



Best regards,

The OC-team

On Mar 13, 1:41=A0pm, marcus.erlands...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 13, 6:10=A0pm, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
>
>
>
> <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On 13 Mar, 13:21, marcus.erlands...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > The OpenCores team are putting in enormous resources in making sure
> > > that
> > > the OpenCores will continue to exist/expand. It is important that the
> > > platform can continue to support good services to both
> > > users and core-providers, also for the next 10-20 years. If possible
> > > it is
> > > also good if we can provide an even greater =93trust=94 and =93qualit=
y=94 in
> > > the
> > > cores at OpenCores.
>
> > > The complete redesign of the OpenCores-platform enable us to support
> > > all
> > > users with a future-proof and professional site. It also support
> > > integrating
> > > new functionalities much easier then before, since the old
> > > platform had grown out of proportion.
>
> > > We feel that we have listen to the community, since we get allot of
> > > Feedback - i.e. complaining about poor statistics, forum structure,
> > > etc. But
> > > unfortunately we also get some few complaints from a small portion of
> > > users
> > > that are just against all changes :-(
>
> > > But for those users who has more concrete suggestion/ideas/
> > > improvements,
> > > feel free to contact us at oc-t...@opencores.org
>
> > > Best regards,
>
> > > The OC-team
>
> > it seems that many links are now dead or then project deleted :(
>
> > too bad
>
> > Antti
>
> Hi Antti.
> Actually, there are more project now visible, then before. But some
> projects where started 2000-2004, but never completed and no one has
> updated the project ever since. These project will be moved to another
> category shortly, so that it is clear to all users which project that
> are ready and not. Send an email to oc-t...@opencores.org and let us
> know what project has been deleted, so that we can double check this.
>
> As for the links, we will be fixing allot of the "broken" links within
> the next coming weeks..
>
> Best regards,
> The OC-team

I think that is great.  I have been watching the CPU projects for some
time and there are many started that have never even been brought to
the point of having code!  It will be very helpful for the duds to be
weeded out.

Rick

On 2009-03-14, Martin Schoeberl <mschoebe@mail.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
> Let's say it friendly: I don't think it's the best policy to censor
> slightly critical comments on a list for discussion on open-source
> projects.

I wholeheartedly agree. (I more or less agree with the rest of your post
as well, although this is the most important part I think.)

Although I'm somewhat in favor of censoring all requests for the
non-synthesizable mp3_decoder project :)

Anyway, to keep this slightly on-topic for the group, wouldn't it be nice
if the OpenCores project listing page would include some icons that
told whether a certain core had been tested on a Xilinx FPGA and another
icon for Altera FPGAs. (So you don't waste time registering an account
in order to download a certain core only to discover that it uses a lot of
primitives for an FPGA that you are not targetting.)

/Andreas

On Mar 20, 2:47=A0am, Andreas Ehliar <ehliar-nos...@isy.liu.se> wrote:
> On 2009-03-14, Martin Schoeberl <mscho...@mail.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>
> > Let's say it friendly: I don't think it's the best policy to censor
> > slightly critical comments on a list for discussion on open-source
> > projects.
>
> I wholeheartedly agree. (I more or less agree with the rest of your post
> as well, although this is the most important part I think.)
>
> Although I'm somewhat in favor of censoring all requests for the
> non-synthesizable mp3_decoder project :)
>
> Anyway, to keep this slightly on-topic for the group, wouldn't it be nice
> if the OpenCores project listing page would include some icons that
> told whether a certain core had been tested on a Xilinx FPGA and another
> icon for Altera FPGAs. (So you don't waste time registering an account
> in order to download a certain core only to discover that it uses a lot o=
f
> primitives for an FPGA that you are not targetting.)
>
> /Andreas

I think they need a lot more than a symbol to tell you what chip it
will run on.  If you ever look through the CPU directory looking for
anything at all specific, you basically have to search each and ever
one of the core listings.  Even then, as you found, a lot of important
"front page" info is missing, included sometimes whether or not the
code actually does anything useful.  Try getting an idea of the size
of the CPU cores in terms of LUT usage.  Many are listed as "XX% of an
XXXYYYZZZ part", often a part 5 years out of date.  Many others give
you no idea of size, how well it works or if it is just a toy
project.

Rick