I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement: "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simulator that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixed VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim." Is this correct? Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even though the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited), Hans www.ht-lab.com
Xilinx no longer ships with Modelsim MXE?
Started by ●April 21, 2010
Reply by ●April 21, 20102010-04-21
On Apr 21, 4:19=A0am, "HT-Lab" <han...@ht-lab.com> wrote:> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement=:> > "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simul=ator> that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixe=d> VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim." > > Is this correct? > > Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even=though> the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited), > > Hanswww.ht-lab.comInteresting. Altera is taking exactly the opposite approach. The first time I started Quartus II v9.1 SP1 I got a message that said their native simulator would not be included "in future versions" of the software. Talking with my FAE, he stated that starting with version 10.0 only ModelSim-Altera would be included. --Marc
Reply by ●April 21, 20102010-04-21
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:19:10 +0100, HT-Lab wrote:> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following > statement: > > "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL > simulator that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, > Verilog and mixed VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim." > > Is this correct? > > Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim > (even though the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited), > > Hans > www.ht-lab.comHas anyone here tried the Xilinx simulator? How is it's performance relative to commercial simulators? Modelsim Starter is severely crippled so it wouldn't be a particularly hard task to produce a simulator that out performs it. Both Xilinx and Altera of produced synthesis tools that are competitive with Synplify, it would be interesting if Xilinx had ambitions to produce a simulator that was as fast as Questa, or better yet as fast as NCsim.
Reply by ●April 21, 20102010-04-21
On Apr 21, 1:19=A0am, "HT-Lab" <han...@ht-lab.com> wrote:> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement=:> > "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simul=ator> that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixe=d> VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim." > > Is this correct? > > Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even=though> the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited), > > Hanswww.ht-lab.comXilinx still provides ModelSim XE (Xilinx Edition), http://www.xilinx.com/tools/mxe.htm Ed McGettigan -- Xilinx Inc
Reply by ●April 21, 20102010-04-21
"HT-Lab" <hans64@ht-lab.com> writes:> Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even though > the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),I dunno, but I was still able to download the latest Modelsim MXE from Xilinx today, version 6.4b from 04/06/2009. But considering it's fairly old, maybe it's true. I'm sure Xilinx is very happy if they can stop stuffing Mentor's coffers and ship their own ISIM instead.