"Peter Alfke" <alfke@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:5d75194a-716f-4baf-86dc-c3da49fd084e@k22g2000prb.googlegroups.com... On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote:>There are many habits one has to change when one moves over the big pond: > months/days, points/commas, billions/ milliards, banking methods,driving > rules, etc >Makes life interesting...And expensive.. Im thinking of technology 'bleepers'... :)
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Started by ●October 4, 2010
Reply by ●October 5, 20102010-10-05
Reply by ●October 9, 20102010-10-09
Peter Alfke skrev:> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Rick >> >> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004, >> at least in my code. > > Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems. All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes the number unique. We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers. The system copes with that, since your number changes to "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used and many/most applications does not allow you to feed in the "+" sign.> It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the > way we write numbers normally. > But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world. > Peter >Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson
Reply by ●October 9, 20102010-10-09
Peter Alfke skrev:> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Rick >> >> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004, >> at least in my code. > > Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden.Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems. All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes the number unique. We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers. The system copes with that, since your number changes to "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used and many/most applications does not allow you to feed in the "+" sign.> It puts the MSD at the left edge, and the LSD on the right edge, the > way we write numbers normally. > But perhaps it is too radical for the rest of the world. > Peter >Best Regards Ulf Samuelsson
Reply by ●October 12, 20102010-10-12
On Oct 9, 12:55=A0pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:> Peter Alfke skrev: > > > On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Rick > > >> PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004=,> >> at least in my code. > > > Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden. > > Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). > You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. > "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems.Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: > "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes > the number unique. > > We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff > after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers.Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food again. ;-)> The system copes with that, since your number changes to > "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used > and many/most applications does not allow > you to feed in the "+" sign.So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age? Rick
Reply by ●October 16, 20102010-10-16
rickman skrev:> On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote: >> Peter Alfke skrev: >> >>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Rick >>>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004, >>>> at least in my code. >>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden. >> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). >> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. >> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems. > > Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't > expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.It is also a matter of clarity. 101010 is clearly 10 October 2010. What is 111210? Is it: Dec 11, 2010 ? Dec 10, 2012 ? The standard is there to remove such abiguity. 2010-11-12 is clear. (Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)> > >> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: >> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes >> the number unique. >> >> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff >> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers. > > Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food > again. ;-) > > >> The system copes with that, since your number changes to >> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used >> and many/most applications does not allow >> you to feed in the "+" sign. > > So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age? >No, just ignorance.> Rick
Reply by ●October 16, 20102010-10-16
rickman skrev:> On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote: >> Peter Alfke skrev: >> >>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Rick >>>> PS I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 101004, >>>> at least in my code. >>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden. >> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). >> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. >> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems. > > Not in my lifetime! Six digits works just fine for my needs. I don't > expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either.It is also a matter of clarity. 101010 is clearly 10 October 2010. What is 111210? Is it: Dec 11, 2010 ? Dec 10, 2012 ? The standard is there to remove such abiguity. 2010-11-12 is clear. (Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)> > >> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: >> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes >> the number unique. >> >> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff >> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers. > > Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food > again. ;-) > > >> The system copes with that, since your number changes to >> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used >> and many/most applications does not allow >> you to feed in the "+" sign. > > So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age? >No, just ignorance.> Rick
Reply by ●October 17, 20102010-10-17
On Oct 16, 10:08=A0am, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote:> rickman skrev: > > > On Oct 9, 12:55 pm, Ulf Samuelsson <u...@notvalid.atmel.com> wrote: > >> Peter Alfke skrev: > > >>> On Oct 4, 7:27 pm, rickman <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Rick > >>>> PS =A0I use the computer format for dates 20101004 or preferred 1010=04,> >>>> at least in my code. > >>> Rick, your sequence is also the official method used in Sweden. > >> Yes, but it is actually an International Standard (ISO 8601). > >> You would normally write "2010-10-04" for readability. > >> "10-10-04" risk wraparound problems. > > > Not in my lifetime! =A0Six digits works just fine for my needs. =A0I do=n't> > expect any of my code to survive for 90 more years either. > > It is also a matter of clarity. > 101010 is clearly 10 October 2010. > What is 111210? > =A0 Is it: > =A0 Dec 11, 2010 ? > =A0 Dec 10, 2012 ? > > The standard is there to remove such abiguity. > 2010-11-12 is clear. > (Noone is using YYYY-DD-MM)"Noone" meaning, you know what it means so it doesn't matter if anyone else is confused. If anyone has not seen your system, it is no more clear than any other. My system is for the computer to read, the user is secondary. If it needs to be understood by the user, it is documented. That removes all doubt.> >> All Swedish citizens (and Companies) get a personal number: > >> "YYMMDD-XXXX" where YYMMDD is birthdate, and XXXX makes > >> the number unique. > > >> We have elderly people that get advertisement for baby stuff > >> after they reach 100+, since year is only two numbers. > > > Depending on the dental care in Sweden they may be ready for baby food > > again. ;-) > > >> The system copes with that, since your number changes to > >> "YYMMDD+XXXX" once you'r past 100, but it is rarely used > >> and many/most applications does not allow > >> you to feed in the "+" sign. > > > So their systems have a "negative" attitude towards age? > > No, just ignorance.I guess this didn't translate into Swedish very well... it was a joke. Rick
