http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212400/Xilinx-to-shutter-French-R-D-operation Yikes, this explains some stuff. I wonder how long it will take to undo the damage. Our latest projects are using Altera parts, purely because the Xilinx software is such a train wreck. John
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:20:55 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:>http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212400/Xilinx-to-shutter-French-R-D-operation > >Yikes, this explains some stuff. I wonder how long it will take to >undo the damage.Damage? The damage caused by closing a software development lab? Given their software, it's probably a good thing. I just tried downloading their 12.4 software last week. It wouldn't even install. The Avnet folks got me a DVD, so I'll probably try that next week.>Our latest projects are using Altera parts, purely >because the Xilinx software is such a train wreck.I'm using a Xilinx Coolrunner part for a very simple application, mostly because they have package better suited to the application and our SMT line (small and not a CsBGA). ISE WebPack 11.1 works reasonably well but I'm not pushing it very hard (32 flops and a half dozen I/O @ 14.7456MHz clock isn't much of a stretch ;-).
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:16 -0600, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:20:55 -0800, John Larkin ><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212400/Xilinx-to-shutter-French-R-D-operation >> >>Yikes, this explains some stuff. I wonder how long it will take to >>undo the damage. > >Damage? The damage caused by closing a software development lab?I meant the damage likely *done* by that lab. We'd been speculating how Xininx managed to snarl up their software so thoroughly, and whether they will ever get it fixed. I can't imagine why they'd outsource something this important to France. Given their>software, it's probably a good thing. I just tried downloading their 12.4 >software last week.As in "all of last week"? It wouldn't even install. The Avnet folks got me a DVD,>so I'll probably try that next week. > >>Our latest projects are using Altera parts, purely >>because the Xilinx software is such a train wreck. > >I'm using a Xilinx Coolrunner part for a very simple application, mostly >because they have package better suited to the application and our SMT line >(small and not a CsBGA). ISE WebPack 11.1 works reasonably well but I'm not >pushing it very hard (32 flops and a half dozen I/O @ 14.7456MHz clock isn't >much of a stretch ;-).Yeah, CPLDs don't need a lot of place-and-route effort. John
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 21:10:27 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:16 -0600, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" ><krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:20:55 -0800, John Larkin >><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212400/Xilinx-to-shutter-French-R-D-operation >>> >>>Yikes, this explains some stuff. I wonder how long it will take to >>>undo the damage. >> >>Damage? The damage caused by closing a software development lab? > >I meant the damage likely *done* by that lab. We'd been speculating >how Xininx managed to snarl up their software so thoroughly, and >whether they will ever get it fixed. I can't imagine why they'd >outsource something this important to France.I don't know why anyone would do business in France (or most of Europe), given their work rules.> Given their >>software, it's probably a good thing. I just tried downloading their 12.4 >>software last week. > >As in "all of last week"?It took two days to download it, at home (I'd be strung up if I did it at work) and another couple of days to try to get it installed. It comes as a .TAR file, which is really useful on a PC.> It wouldn't even install. The Avnet folks got me a DVD, >>so I'll probably try that next week. >> >>>Our latest projects are using Altera parts, purely >>>because the Xilinx software is such a train wreck. >> >>I'm using a Xilinx Coolrunner part for a very simple application, mostly >>because they have package better suited to the application and our SMT line >>(small and not a CsBGA). ISE WebPack 11.1 works reasonably well but I'm not >>pushing it very hard (32 flops and a half dozen I/O @ 14.7456MHz clock isn't >>much of a stretch ;-). > >Yeah, CPLDs don't need a lot of place-and-route effort.OTOH, I don't seem much difference in what Altera calls a CPLD (Max-II/V) and an FPGA.
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John Larkin wrote:>...We'd been speculating > how Xininx managed to snarl up their software so thoroughly,...cf. MICRO$~1 Cheers! Rich
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"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:6ndnj6taqep5e1fno3cj0gkcehv892m018@4ax.com...> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 23:03:16 -0600, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" > <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:20:55 -0800, John Larkin >><jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4212400/Xilinx-to-shutter-French-R-D-operation >>> >>>Yikes, this explains some stuff. I wonder how long it will take to >>>undo the damage. >> >>Damage? The damage caused by closing a software development lab? > > I meant the damage likely *done* by that lab. We'd been speculating > how Xininx managed to snarl up their software so thoroughly, and> I can't imagine why they'd outsource something this important to France.Me neither, don't they know that all brilliant programmers are in the US! Hans www.ht-lab.com
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krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz:> I don't know why anyone would do business in France (or most of Europe), given > their work rules.If the State owns the bigger electronics & defence companies ad it is a chauvinist (french world...) nation, the best way to sell them stuff is to have a non purely commercial operation there.
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