Hello All
    No, I didn't patch anything. Just the regular Mandrake 10.
Powerpack install. Don't know if this procedure will work for th
Community Edition

1) set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the Xilinx installation C
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/mnt/cdrom/platform/lin/bin/lin:$LD_LIBRARY_PAT

2) Install OpenMotif. I used this file
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/updates/3/x86_64/openmotif-2.2.3-6.FC3.1.i386.htm
openmotif-2.2.3-6.FC3.1.i386.rp

3) Install libcurl. It's located in the Mandrake install DVD
You also have to make a softlink to libcurl.so.3.0.0 as libcurl.so.2
ln -s libcurl.so.3.0.0 libcurl.so.

This will get the installer working. After you install all three CDs
run
(assuming you installed ISE at /opt/Xilinx
/opt/Xilinx/settings.s
This script was't with execute permissions, so I had to chmod' i

Now, just run
/opt/Xilinx/bin/lin/ise 

This should start ISE. I had one more 'glitch'. I couldn't create
open, etc, any projects. If I tried to create a new project, IS
would tell me "cannot create tem project at...". If you look at th
path it[ trying to create the project, it[ your own tm
path, problably under you home dir. What gives? The solution i
simple, but very stupid. It's a ISE bug, obviously, unset th
'TMPDIR' environment variable. No, don try to point it to anothe
path, it's a ISE bug and even as root you get the error, so it's no
a permitions problem. So unset it
unset TMPDI
If i do
$ export | grep TM

you should read something like this
declare -x GCONF_TMPDIR="/tmp
declare -x TMP="/home/lsantos/tmp
The important thing is NOT to have TMPDIR in this list. Exit and star
ISE again, obvioulsy with the same terminal you 'unseted� th
variable. Voil�! ISE works. Although the simulator doesn't :-(, whic
was my main reason to install ISE 7.1 in the first place, as I alread
have ISE 6.3 worwing fine

leonardopsantos wrote:
> Hello All:
>     I have a succes story about ISE 7.1i and Mandrake 10.1, with the
> usual hassle of library linking and installing openmotif.
>      What I haven't been able to do is to use iMpact. The GUI loads
> fine, but it seems unable to load the Xilinx cable drivers. I tried
> to recompile the drivers, but that didn't work either. Has anyone
> been able to use iMpact on a 2.6 Linux box? Or at a Linux box at
> all?
> Thanks!
> 

I've just successfully used the new ISE 7.1i for Linux (on Fedora Core 3 
- kernel 2.6.11) to program an XC9500 using the jtag parallel cable I 
made last week.

I had to patch / recompile the drivers.  There was some work involved, 
but it wasn't too terrible.  I used the method outlined in this article: 
http://www.fpga-faq.org/FAQ_Pages/0044_Xilinx_Parallel_on_Linux.htm

There were some unnecessary parts, and some necessary parts that were a 
little foggy.  But I managed.  Hint: don't bother with the Xilinx 
drivers - use the windrvr from http://www.jungo.com/

Jason

Duane Clark wrote:
> Phil Tomson wrote:
> 
>>
>> Well, it turns out the the ISE GUI is unusable for me - it takes up to 
>> several minutes to respond to mouse clicks.
> 
> 
> I found that behavior if I have, for example, setiathome running in the 
> background. Even renicing seti to priority 19 did not help. I would 
> suggest checking for processor intensive tasks running in the background.
> 

Much thanks for that!  I was really excited when I saw the ISE WebPack 
for Linux.  But that excitement turned to horror when it took 3 minutes 
to resize the main window.

Killing my Folding@Home Client cleared up the slowness.

> So in my alias to configure for the Xilinx environment, I kill seti too:
> xi  seti stop;source $XILINX/settings.csh;source 
> $XILINX_EDK/setup.csh;source /opt/eldk/v2p_bsp_envs.csh
> 
>>
>> However, I'd actually prefer to be able to script the whole thing.  I 
>> know that a while back someone posted a link to a webpage that showed 
>> how to run the Xilinx tools from the command line but now I can't find 
>> it even via goodle.  Anyone got the link?
>>
>> PHil
>>

In article <geedneaXzs35YOLfRVn_vg@giganews.com>,
leonardopsantos <leonardopsantos@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid> wrote:
>Hello All:
>    I have a succes story about ISE 7.1i and Mandrake 10.1, with the
>usual hassle of library linking and installing openmotif.

Can you give us any hints about what you had to do to get ISE 7.1i 
running under Mandrake?  I can run it but it's very slow - did you have 
to patch the kernel?

PHil

Hello All
    I have a succes story about ISE 7.1i and Mandrake 10.1, with th
usual hassle of library linking and installing openmotif
     What I haven't been able to do is to use iMpact. The GUI load
fine, but it seems unable to load the Xilinx cable drivers. I trie
to recompile the drivers, but that didn't work either. Has anyon
been able to use iMpact on a 2.6 Linux box? Or at a Linux box a
all
Thanks

Marc Randolph wrote:
> My WAG is that they mistakenly thought they needed to go binary to

Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
> "WAG" !!! Wow ! Last time I heard WAG was about 10+ years ago
> when I was working at Tandem. We also used EWAG (E=educated).

Around here it's a SWAG (Scientific...).

Marc Randolph wrote:
> I'm guessing it wasn't paranoia, because they provide a way to import
> and export information to/from the new binary .ise file:
> 
> http://support.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_ans_display.jsp?getPagePath=21067
> 
> My WAG is that they mistakenly thought they needed to go binary to
> improve the speed of the GUI (which can be sluggish with large
> projects, even on a decently fast machine).  So that would line up with
> cause (a) above.
> 
>    Marc

"WAG" !!! Wow ! Last time I heard WAG was about 10+ years ago
when I was working at Tandem. We also used EWAG (E=educated).
Amazing, I almost forgot it ... ;*)

Cheers,
rudi
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Phil Tomson wrote:
> In article <4262f6e4$1@clear.net.nz>,
> Jim Granville  <no.spam@designtools.co.nz> wrote:
> >Phil Tomson wrote:
> >> In article <1113761592.889108.25670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Marc Randolph <mrand@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >>>Howdy Phil,
> >>>
> >>>  It used to be.  The GUI group appears to have gone to binary
project
> >>>file, at least on Windows version of ISE 7.1i - that move alone
has
> >>>almost driven me away from using the VHDL flow, back to using the
edif
> >>>flow.
> >>
> >> Bizarre.  While the rest of the world is going to text formats
like XML
> >> (even Microsoft's Visual Studio.NET now store project files as
editable
> >> XML.) Xilinx decides to move to a binary format?  Can anyone from
Xilinx
> >> comment on the rationale for doing this?
> >
> >  There are solid version control, and user support, reasons for
using
> >an ASCII project file, that can be shared between GUI and command
line
> >flows.
> >  It also has operational benefits : You use the GUI for what it is
good
> >at ( one off set-up ), and the command line when speed and
> >removal-of-operator-error are important.
> >
> >  It can also save money - in this example, a user could set up in a

> >borrowed Windows GUI, then run Linux command line, knowing the
> >results will be (hopefully) the same.
> >
> >  Where I have seen moves to binary project (and design!) files in
the
> >past, that has been driven by paranoia, and an effort to reduce
> >portability to the "others".
> >
> >  History shows that the minus side of this move, outweighed any
plus
> >side. Fundamental rule: Do not penalise the legitimate users!
> >
> >  Seems to be two possible causes :
> >a) A novice was put in charge of the project file decision
> >and/or
> >b) The paranoia quotient really is going up at Xilinx
> >    [see other posts ?]
>
> But what would they be paranoid about?  Are they afraid that Altera
will
> create a Xilinx to Altera project converter or something?  Even if
they
> did so, would it really be that big of a deal?  The benefits of
having a
> user-editable ASCII project file (which you outline) seem to greatly
> outweigh this risk.

I'm guessing it wasn't paranoia, because they provide a way to import
and export information to/from the new binary .ise file:

http://support.xilinx.com/xlnx/xil_ans_display.jsp?getPagePath=21067

My WAG is that they mistakenly thought they needed to go binary to
improve the speed of the GUI (which can be sluggish with large
projects, even on a decently fast machine).  So that would line up with
cause (a) above.

   Marc

I wrote:
> Note that Qt still would have per-seat license fees, so I don't think
> it's even in the running.

Martin Ellis:
> Huh?  Qt is licensed per developer seat, not per user seat.
> See: http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/migrate/motif.html

Thanks for the correction.  I knew that there was commercial licensing
involved, but had no idea that there weren't per-copy fees.

Rudolf Usselmann wrote:
> Duane Clark wrote:

>>Of course, that doesn't get you the project in the first place. In
>>general, I take an existing project that is similar to what I want, copy
>>it over, and start modifying.
> 
> 
> Exactly ! Thats is what I do. And as you point out the tricky
> part is to get the project created. For that I still start up
> xps, and ask it to "Save Makefile". After that I just run gmake ...

A trick to save waiting for the GUI:

$ xps -nw system.xmp

% save make
% exit

John