"You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except
as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to
copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will
automatically terminate your rights under this License."
It's very much in Altera's interest to adhere to the license!
Cheers,
Jon
Reply by Jedi●July 5, 20052005-07-05
Ben Twijnstra wrote:
> Hi Antti,
>
>
>>Altera CAN NOT say anything.
>>
>>The stuff is GPL so its ok to make it available in public as long as you
>>comply to GPL no matter what way you obtained the sources
>
>
> True, but it would sure be nice if they would be releasing this stuff
> proactively.
>
> My guess is that the development team is quite willing to help out, but is
> suffering from a condition known as Red-Tape-itis(TM) (which gets a whole
> new meaning after seeing War of the Worlds).
>
> Anyway, with Altera closed until tomorrow, I doubt anything will happen this
> week...
>
> Altera CAN NOT say anything.
>
> The stuff is GPL so its ok to make it available in public as long as you
> comply to GPL no matter what way you obtained the sources
True, but it would sure be nice if they would be releasing this stuff
proactively.
My guess is that the development team is quite willing to help out, but is
suffering from a condition known as Red-Tape-itis(TM) (which gets a whole
new meaning after seeing War of the Worlds).
Anyway, with Altera closed until tomorrow, I doubt anything will happen this
week...
Best regards,
Ben
Reply by Antti Lukats●July 5, 20052005-07-05
"Jedi" <me@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:nOxye.221$kA1.202@read3.inet.fi...
> Jedi wrote:
> > Jon Beniston wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee
> >>
> >> "If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide "equivalent
> >> access" to download the source--therefore, the fee to download source
> >> may not be greater than the fee to download the binary."
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jon
> >>
> >
> > http://www.altera.com/support/kdb/2000/11/rd11272000_7307.html
> >
> > Pretty outdated...and ftp directory is empty since few weeks.
> >
>
> If Altera doesn't mind I setup something like nios.uclinux.net
> or altera.uclinux.net and upload the re-arranged sources...
>
> Just have to include/test elf2flt first since this isn't available
> as source from Microtronix either (o;
>
>
> rick
>
Altera CAN NOT say anything.
The stuff is GPL so its ok to make it available in public as long as you
comply to GPL no matter what way you obtained the sources
Antti
If Altera doesn't mind I setup something like nios.uclinux.net
or altera.uclinux.net and upload the re-arranged sources...
Just have to include/test elf2flt first since this isn't available
as source from Microtronix either (o;
rick
Reply by Jedi●July 5, 20052005-07-05
Jon Beniston wrote:
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee
>
> "If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide "equivalent
> access" to download the source--therefore, the fee to download source
> may not be greater than the fee to download the binary."
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowDownloadFee
"If you distribute binaries by download, you must provide "equivalent
access" to download the source--therefore, the fee to download source
may not be greater than the fee to download the binary."
Cheers,
Jon
Reply by Ben Twijnstra●July 4, 20052005-07-04
Hi Rick,
> So...then the downloadble NIOS2 evaluation version breaks the GPL
> since it only contains gcc/binutils binaries?
Comment 1: Bollocks. Hogwash.
Comment 2: I'm not employed by Altera.
Elaboration:
The GPL states that the author of a GPL derivative is allowed to charge a
nominal fee for redistribution of the source. Publishing the code on a web
or ftp site would be convenient, but is not a requirement.
In order to comply with the GPL, Altera _must_ be willing to send you a copy
of the source code for a nominal shipping and handling fee or they'd be
violating the GPL - and they are willing. They just happen not to ship the
source code with the eval edition. If you want a copy of the source code, I
can send it to you and Altera won't object.
Not including it with the eval edition is therefore not against the GPL. I
guess they made a tradeoff: how many moans do you get from blowing up the
downloadable version by ~50MB by providing source code that just about
nobody is going to use, and how many moans do you get from users in Finland
for not providing the source code and claiming you're violating the GPL.
Just my $.02
Ben
Reply by Jedi●July 4, 20052005-07-04
Evening...
The NIOS2 sources are only available on the shipped CD's..right?
So...then the downloadble NIOS2 evaluation version breaks the GPL
since it only contains gcc/binutils binaries?
rick