How about SOPC Builder? Have any changes been made for permformance
improvements while editing? I have never had a problem with long
generation times but I have a encountered long delays between adding
and editing components.

Derek


Paul Leventis wrote:
> > However, once the timing
> > engines have been paralellized in 7.0 or 7.1, expect a more noticeable
> > speedup.
>
> A small correction to Ben's post: Portions of the timing engine are
> parallized in this release.
>
> I should also point out that in addition to parallel compile, there
> have been other improvements made for compile time.  We're always
> pushing on the fitter to reduce compile by general coding & algorithm
> improvements, and by being more intelligent about just how much effort
> we spend on your design based on how tight your timing & fitting
> requirements are.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Leventis
> Altera Corp.

> However, once the timing
> engines have been paralellized in 7.0 or 7.1, expect a more noticeable
> speedup.

A small correction to Ben's post: Portions of the timing engine are
parallized in this release.

I should also point out that in addition to parallel compile, there
have been other improvements made for compile time.  We're always
pushing on the fitter to reduce compile by general coding & algorithm
improvements, and by being more intelligent about just how much effort
we spend on your design based on how tight your timing & fitting
requirements are.

Regards,

Paul Leventis
Altera Corp.

"Ben Twijnstra" <btwijnstra@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:cc60$4555781c$d52e23a9$13983@news.chello.nl...
> Thomas Entner wrote:
>>
>> But what I really wanted to say is that I am pretty euphoric about
>> multi-processor support, if it really works well and gets compile-time
>> down drastically. Hmm, will I have still time to post here?
>
> In 6.1, only a few parts of the fitter have been paralellized - think of
> about 15% performance increase on a quad-core.

Would have been too good to be true...

> However, once the timing
> engines have been paralellized in 7.0 or 7.1, expect a more noticeable
> speedup.
>
> On the other hand, better to start saving a bit of time now and getting
> better over the next months than to make you wait for the whole thing to 
> be
> fully paralellized for another year.
>

Agreed.

Thomas 

Thomas Entner wrote:
> 
> But what I really wanted to say is that I am pretty euphoric about
> multi-processor support, if it really works well and gets compile-time
> down drastically. Hmm, will I have still time to post here?

In 6.1, only a few parts of the fitter have been paralellized - think of
about 15% performance increase on a quad-core. However, once the timing
engines have been paralellized in 7.0 or 7.1, expect a more noticeable
speedup.

On the other hand, better to start saving a bit of time now and getting
better over the next months than to make you wait for the whole thing to be
fully paralellized for another year.

Best regards,


Ben

"Jim Granville" <no.spam@designtools.maps.co.nz> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4554e533$1@clear.net.nz...
> Thomas Entner wrote:
>> Personally, I am waiting for Cyclone III....
>
> what about MAX III ?
>

MAX III -> too small, S-III -> too expensive for our typical applications 
(however, the smallest S-III for a Cyclone-price would be a deal :-)

But what I really wanted to say is that I am pretty euphoric about 
multi-processor support, if it really works well and gets compile-time down 
drastically. Hmm, will I have still time to post here?

Thomas 

Thomas Entner wrote:
> Personally, I am waiting for Cyclone III....

what about MAX III ?

-jg

Thomas Entner schrieb:

> Personally, I am waiting for Cyclone III....
>
> However, the homepage mention that Quartus 6.1 which comes along with S-III
> will have multi-processer-support (finally...). If this really delivers what
> it promises that would be REALLY great! (Time to buy a quad-core :-)
>
> Thomas
>
hm, I think I looking more for XP2 ;)
but C-3 might be nice thing also

Antti

Personally, I am waiting for Cyclone III....

However, the homepage mention that Quartus 6.1 which comes along with S-III 
will have multi-processer-support (finally...). If this really delivers what 
it promises that would be REALLY great! (Time to buy a quad-core :-)

Thomas

"Antti" <Antti.Lukats@xilant.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:1163173725.751772.29560@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> S-III L == V5LX
> S-III E == V5SX
> S-III GX == V5xxT
>
> 1000-unit pricing starts at $549 for the EP3SL150
> Quartus WebPack support for S-III to be available on 4 DEC 2006
>
> Antti
> 

S-III L == V5LX
S-III E == V5SX
S-III GX == V5xxT

1000-unit pricing starts at $549 for the EP3SL150
Quartus WebPack support for S-III to be available on 4 DEC 2006

Antti