On Jul 6, 9:12=A0am, Jonathan Bromley <jonathan.brom...@MYCOMPANY.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:02:42 +0800, steve <st...@aol.com> wrote:
> >we are not talking about "linkedin" =A0,we are talking about a technical=
 group
> >within the =A0"LI" network.
> >If you cannot keep up, there =A0is Lego and crayons over in the play are=
a.
>
> Ah, the New Media Priesthood. =A0Their mantra: If you
> Don't Get It, we will patronize you to death.
>
> Me, I definitely Don't Get It, and I really don't
> care all that much, and I've been patronized in
> the past by people I respect a lot more than the
> Noo Meeja Vangelists, so I don't feel too worried.
>
> Is there a LinkedIn group for elderly curmudgeons?
> I'm in there...
> --
> Jonathan Bromley, Consultant

I haven't found one, but you can start it!  I'll probably join as
well.  What is it about getting old anyway???

Rick

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:02:42 +0800, steve <steve@aol.com> wrote:

>we are not talking about "linkedin"  ,we are talking about a technical group 
>within the  "LI" network.
>If you cannot keep up, there  is Lego and crayons over in the play area.

Ah, the New Media Priesthood.  Their mantra: If you
Don't Get It, we will patronize you to death.

Me, I definitely Don't Get It, and I really don't
care all that much, and I've been patronized in 
the past by people I respect a lot more than the 
Noo Meeja Vangelists, so I don't feel too worried.

Is there a LinkedIn group for elderly curmudgeons?
I'm in there...
-- 
Jonathan Bromley, Consultant

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VHDL * Verilog * SystemC * e * Perl * Tcl/Tk * Project Services

Doulos Ltd., 22 Market Place, Ringwood, BH24 1AW, UK
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The contents of this message may contain personal views which 
are not the views of Doulos Ltd., unless specifically stated.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:23:01 +0800, Nico Coesel wrote
(in article <4a506294.2904187875@news.planet.nl>):

> steve <steve@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:08:16 +0800, rickman wrote
>> (in article 
>> <68320efd-477b-4818-95dd-d4639d7e2cd1@n19g2000vba.googlegroups.com>):
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 10:52=A0am, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
>>> <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jun 28, 5:09=A0pm, cpld-fpga-asic <cpld.fpga.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Group for People Involved In the Design and Verification of FPGA's,
>>>>> other Programmable Logic , and CPLD's to Exchange Idea's and
>>>>> Techniques. You should have FPGA / CPLD Design / Verification on your
>>>>> Profile. (The focus is more on FPGA/CPLD in the product as opposed to
>>>>> FPGA's solely as a path to an ASIC) VHDL / Verilog / ABLE / SystemC
>>>>> and other HDL's as well. Vendors included: Xilinx, Altera, Actel,
>>>>> Lattice, Atmel, QuickLogic, Tabula, Silicon Blue, Mentor, Cadence,
>>>>> Synopsys, Aldec, NI, Altium, and Many Others.
>>>> 
>>>> could you describe the last technical FPGA related question
>>>> that your linkedin networking group solved?
>>>> 
>>>> unless you are able todo that, i see you repeated postings
>>>> to c.a.f. as complete spam
>>>> 
>>>> Antti
>>> 
>>> Hi, I am one of the moderators at this group and I must be honest
>>> about it.  It is not a very technically oriented group.  I have tried
>>> to make some technically oriented posts there with few responses.
>>> out would be a mistake.
>>> 
>>> So I have given up on this group as well as other FPGA related groups
>>> at LinkedIn.  I have not removed myself from membership, but I can't
>>> say I recommend them unless you wish to use it for employment or self
>>> promotion.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>> 
>> I'm completely confused as to how you can have a FPGA  group that is not  
>> "technically orientated" , it would be like having a flower arranging class 
>> without the flowers.
> 
> LinkedIn is not about solving problems. It is about hiring the right
> people to solve problems. To get back to your example: you could find
> someone thru LinkedIn that can arrange the flowers for you.
> 
> 

we are not talking about "linkedin"  ,we are talking about a technical group 
within the  "LI" network.
If you cannot keep up, there  is Lego and crayons over in the play area.

steve <steve@aol.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:08:16 +0800, rickman wrote
>(in article 
><68320efd-477b-4818-95dd-d4639d7e2cd1@n19g2000vba.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> On Jun 28, 10:52=A0am, "Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com"
>> <Antti.Luk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 28, 5:09=A0pm, cpld-fpga-asic <cpld.fpga.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Group for People Involved In the Design and Verification of FPGA's,
>>>> other Programmable Logic , and CPLD's to Exchange Idea's and
>>>> Techniques. You should have FPGA / CPLD Design / Verification on your
>>>> Profile. (The focus is more on FPGA/CPLD in the product as opposed to
>>>> FPGA's solely as a path to an ASIC) VHDL / Verilog / ABLE / SystemC
>>>> and other HDL's as well. Vendors included: Xilinx, Altera, Actel,
>>>> Lattice, Atmel, QuickLogic, Tabula, Silicon Blue, Mentor, Cadence,
>>>> Synopsys, Aldec, NI, Altium, and Many Others.
>>> 
>>> could you describe the last technical FPGA related question
>>> that your linkedin networking group solved?
>>> 
>>> unless you are able todo that, i see you repeated postings
>>> to c.a.f. as complete spam
>>> 
>>> Antti
>> 
>> Hi, I am one of the moderators at this group and I must be honest
>> about it.  It is not a very technically oriented group.  I have tried
>> to make some technically oriented posts there with few responses.
>> out would be a mistake.
>> 
>> So I have given up on this group as well as other FPGA related groups
>> at LinkedIn.  I have not removed myself from membership, but I can't
>> say I recommend them unless you wish to use it for employment or self
>> promotion.
>> 
>> Rick
>
> I'm completely confused as to how you can have a FPGA  group that is not  
>"technically orientated" , it would be like having a flower arranging class 
>without the flowers.

LinkedIn is not about solving problems. It is about hiring the right
people to solve problems. To get back to your example: you could find
someone thru LinkedIn that can arrange the flowers for you.

-- 
Failure does not prove something is impossible, failure simply
indicates you are not using the right tools...
                     "If it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer!"
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On Jul 4, 11:02=A0pm, "MM" <mb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
> > For example, I can't find a way to reach a human at Twitter
>
> Why on earth a grown man would want to use Twitter? :)
>
> /Mikhail

I'm not trying to *use* it, I want them to stop sending me junk
email!  Didn't you read the post?

Rick

"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote
>
> For example, I can't find a way to reach a human at Twitter

Why on earth a grown man would want to use Twitter? :)

/Mikhail 

On Jul 3, 3:46 pm, "MM" <mb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:7c6c7876-8296-41e1-8ec9-b2a13f6da403@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 3, 1:47 pm, "MM" <mb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >I have not seen anything about points on LinkedIn.  I think the only
> >way to "improve" your image at LinkedIn is what you put in your
> >profile.  LinkedIn does not rate anyone that I am aware of.
>
> >I think you may be remembering a different site than LinkedIn.  They
> >don't limit the time to reply to a discussion and I am not a paid
> >member and I can send private messages.  If I could find you, I would
> >send you a private message to demonstrate, but there are a lot of
> >Mikhails on LinkedIn.
>
> I should have put points in quote marks. There is no rating, but there is an
> option to see all the answers by a person. I am not confusing LinkedIn with
> another site but I might be confusing discussions in its groups with its
> Answers section though. With regards to the private mail, it seems as they
> have recently changed their policy. It used to be that you could only send a
> message to someone in your network, for anyone else the only type of message
> you could send was an invitation to join your network.
>
> /Mikhail

I believe you are correct about the change.  I don't use it that often
so I don't recall all the details, but I seem to recall that when I
tried to contact someone a while back I had to "invite" them to my
network.  Fortunately that has changed now.

I'm not at all familiar with the Answers section.  I guess I just have
not explored it a lot.  I find the interface to be a bit less than
obvious, but then I think that about a lot of web sites like Facebook
and Twitter.

For example, I can't find a way to reach a human at Twitter to report
spam to or to ask to block emails to my domain.  I keep getting form
emails back about using their support web pages.  I guess I will have
to resort to the post office.

Speaking of Twitter, I got some spam (an invitation to join as one of
their "twits") from someone there and I can't find a way to report
them.  There used to be a law here in Maryland that would allow you to
sue a spammer for $500 for each email they knowingly sent to a
Maryland state resident.  A guy decided to fight back by taking an
email address at <marylandstateresident.com> and started suing
spammers.  He snared a couple of small time spammers selling BS
assembly projects that you could assemble and then get paid for.  Of
course no one ever made them good enough to get through "quality
control".  Then a spammer fought back and won in court with the ruling
that it would be next to impossible for a spammer to "know" he was
spamming a Maryland state resident.  Otherwise participation by the
State Attorney General is required in order to sue a spammer if I
understand the current law.

Rick

"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:7c6c7876-8296-41e1-8ec9-b2a13f6da403@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 3, 1:47 pm, "MM" <mb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I have not seen anything about points on LinkedIn.  I think the only
>way to "improve" your image at LinkedIn is what you put in your
>profile.  LinkedIn does not rate anyone that I am aware of.
>
>I think you may be remembering a different site than LinkedIn.  They
>don't limit the time to reply to a discussion and I am not a paid
>member and I can send private messages.  If I could find you, I would
>send you a private message to demonstrate, but there are a lot of
>Mikhails on LinkedIn.

I should have put points in quote marks. There is no rating, but there is an 
option to see all the answers by a person. I am not confusing LinkedIn with 
another site but I might be confusing discussions in its groups with its 
Answers section though. With regards to the private mail, it seems as they 
have recently changed their policy. It used to be that you could only send a 
message to someone in your network, for anyone else the only type of message 
you could send was an invitation to join your network.


/Mikhail 

On Jul 3, 1:47=A0pm, "MM" <mb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "rickman" <gnu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8d00a3a1-3187-4421-aed4-6b1df3c71b97@s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 8:23 pm, steve <st...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > There are other aspects to any occupation than just the technical
> > issues. =A0LinkedIn is oriented toward the business issues such as
> > getting a job or filling a job. =A0As much as I would like to see it be
> > more technical, it seems like it is pretty firmly rooted in networking
> > with technical discussions being secondary.
>
> > Is it really that odd to consider?
>
> > Rick
>
> A bigger problem is how technical discussions are set up (or at least use=
d
> to be set up when I last looked) and viewed on LinkedIn. Answering questi=
ons
> is supposed to earn you points to improve your image. The questions remai=
n
> active for only limited period of time upon expiration of which no one ca=
n
> contribute. Finally, you need to be a premium (read paid) member to be ab=
le
> to send a private message to another member.
>
> /Mikhail

I have not seen anything about points on LinkedIn.  I think the only
way to "improve" your image at LinkedIn is what you put in your
profile.  LinkedIn does not rate anyone that I am aware of.

I think you may be remembering a different site than LinkedIn.  They
don't limit the time to reply to a discussion and I am not a paid
member and I can send private messages.  If I could find you, I would
send you a private message to demonstrate, but there are a lot of
Mikhails on LinkedIn.

Rick

"rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8d00a3a1-3187-4421-aed4-6b1df3c71b97@s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 2, 8:23 pm, steve <st...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> There are other aspects to any occupation than just the technical
> issues.  LinkedIn is oriented toward the business issues such as
> getting a job or filling a job.  As much as I would like to see it be
> more technical, it seems like it is pretty firmly rooted in networking
> with technical discussions being secondary.
>
> Is it really that odd to consider?
>
> Rick


A bigger problem is how technical discussions are set up (or at least used 
to be set up when I last looked) and viewed on LinkedIn. Answering questions 
is supposed to earn you points to improve your image. The questions remain 
active for only limited period of time upon expiration of which no one can 
contribute. Finally, you need to be a premium (read paid) member to be able 
to send a private message to another member.


/Mikhail