"HT-Lab" <hans64@ht-lab.com> writes:

> Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even though 
> the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),

I dunno, but I was still able to download the latest Modelsim MXE from
Xilinx today, version 6.4b from 04/06/2009. But considering it's
fairly old, maybe it's true. I'm sure Xilinx is very happy if they can
stop stuffing Mentor's coffers and ship their own ISIM instead.

On Apr 21, 1:19=A0am, "HT-Lab" <han...@ht-lab.com> wrote:
> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement=
:
>
> "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simul=
ator
> that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixe=
d
> VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim."
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even=
 though
> the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),
>
> Hanswww.ht-lab.com

Xilinx still provides ModelSim XE (Xilinx Edition),
http://www.xilinx.com/tools/mxe.htm

Ed McGettigan
--
Xilinx Inc

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:19:10 +0100, HT-Lab wrote:

> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following
> statement:
> 
> "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL
> simulator that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL,
> Verilog and mixed VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim."
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim
> (even though the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),
> 
> Hans
> www.ht-lab.com

Has anyone here tried the Xilinx simulator? How is it's performance 
relative to commercial simulators? 

Modelsim Starter is severely crippled so it wouldn't be a particularly 
hard task to produce a simulator that out performs it. Both Xilinx and 
Altera of produced synthesis tools that are competitive with Synplify, it 
would be interesting if Xilinx had ambitions to produce a simulator that 
was as fast as Questa, or better yet as fast as NCsim.

On Apr 21, 4:19=A0am, "HT-Lab" <han...@ht-lab.com> wrote:
> I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement=
:
>
> "Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simul=
ator
> that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixe=
d
> VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim."
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even=
 though
> the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),
>
> Hanswww.ht-lab.com

Interesting. Altera is taking exactly the opposite approach. The first
time I started Quartus II v9.1 SP1 I got a message that said their
native simulator would not be included "in future versions" of the
software. Talking with my FAE, he stated that starting with version
10.0 only ModelSim-Altera would be included.

--Marc

I received a Sigasi Editor update email which had the following statement:

"Xilinx no longer ships ModelSim with ISE but now ships its own HDL simulator 
that enables functional and timing simulations for VHDL, Verilog and mixed 
VHDL/Verilog designs: ISim."

Is this correct?

Although ISIM is not bad it is still a long way from being Modelsim (even though 
the MXE(starter) edition is fairly limited),

Hans
www.ht-lab.com