On 05/12/18 22:07, Theo wrote:> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote: >> If you don't specifically need this old version of the software for >> handling old chips, then why not use newer and better versions, and save >> yourself the fuss with the licence files? > > There's a legitimate reason to use an old version when synthesising, because > porting from one version of the tools to another is nontrivial (particularly > with respect to supplied IP cores, which can change functionality in > incompatible ways). So if somebody gives me a project built with a particular > version, the first thing I do is try and build with that version, then port > forward and see if it still works. Timing can often be markedly different > between versions (not always for the better).Yes, I realise that - and I recommend not changing the tools for an existing project without extremely good reason. (I work mainly with embedded software, rather than programmable logic, but the same applies there.) However, my understanding is that the OP is doing tests and experiments with new code and a new design, so this does not apply.> > However, I can't think of an instance when simulating where you might need > to use an older version of the simulator. > > (give or take issues like 32 v 64 bit versions of tools and whatever your > host OS supports) > > Theo >
How to make Altera-Modelsim free download version to work?
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Reply by ●December 6, 20182018-12-06
Reply by ●December 6, 20182018-12-06
On 06/12/2018 01:03, Weng Tianxiang wrote: ..snip> > Hi Theo, > > Where can I download Quartus Lite and Modelsim-Intel FPGA Edition? >If you are a student then I would recommend the student edition which has far less limitations (instance limits) although for some unknown reason it is still single language only: https://www.mentor.com/company/higher_ed/modelsim-student-edition Mentor used to have lots of FPGA vendor OEM agreements (by my count at least 6), nowadays there are only 3(?) left: Intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/software/programmable/quartus-prime/model-sim.html Microchip: https://www.microchip.com/design-centers/programmable-logic/spld-cpld/tools/software/prochip-designer Microchip(MicroSemi): https://www.microsemi.com/product-directory/dev-tools/4900-modelsim> > Writing code in VHDL 2008 is much easier than in VHDL 2002.So true, however, make sure your synthesis tool can handle 2008 as changing your code back from 2008 to 2002 is a real pain. Good luck, Hans. www.ht-lab.com> > Thank you. > > Weng >
Reply by ●December 6, 20182018-12-06
Weng Tianxiang <wtxwtx@gmail.com> wrote:> Where can I download Quartus Lite and Modelsim-Intel FPGA Edition?https://dl.altera.com/ You'll need to login. The dropdowns allow you to select 'Lite' and whatever version you need. 18.1 is the most recent. I wouldn't use this for your first time, but because I end up deploying Quartus to servers a lot, I wrote a Python script to download and install the Linux version: https://github.com/CTSRD-CHERI/quartus-install This doesn't have a complete database of URLs, only the ones I've needed for particular jobs, and it has a few rough edges. Happy to take pull requests. (the URLs can be generated programmatically, but Altera kept changing the format between versions so I gave up and just pasted them all in) Theo
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Reply by ●December 6, 20182018-12-06
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 3:26:14 PM UTC-8, KJ wrote:> GHDL is a free VHDL simulator. > http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Ghdl > > KevinHi Kevin, Thank you for sharing the most important information. The problem is that I have no experience with Linux system. Do you have any experiences with GHDL? Weng
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Reply by ●December 7, 20182018-12-07
On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:33:03 PM UTC-8, KJ wrote:> I prefer Modelsim but I did try GHDL. It works under Windows as well, which is what I used. > > KevinHi Kevin, I registered an account in GitHub, and I found I missed and could not find GHDL in any version. Could you please give me the website to download GitHub window version? Thank you. Weng
Reply by ●December 8, 20182018-12-08
On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote:> On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:33:03 PM UTC-8, KJ wrote: > > I prefer Modelsim but I did try GHDL. It works under Windows as well, which is what I used. > > > > Kevin > > Hi Kevin, > > I registered an account in GitHub, and I found I missed and could not find GHDL in any version. > > Could you please give me the website to download GitHub window version? > > Thank you. > > Wenghttps://github.com/ghdl/ghdl/releases Kevin
Reply by ●December 8, 20182018-12-08
On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-8, KJ wrote:> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote: > > On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:33:03 PM UTC-8, KJ wrote: > > > I prefer Modelsim but I did try GHDL. It works under Windows as well, which is what I used. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > > I registered an account in GitHub, and I found I missed and could not find GHDL in any version. > > > > Could you please give me the website to download GitHub window version? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Weng > > https://github.com/ghdl/ghdl/releases > > KevinHi Kevin, Thank you very much !!! I am not an experienced application user. Here I copied all related download file names from the website you suggested above: ghdl-0.35-llvm-3.8-ubuntu14.tgz 14.1 MB ghdl-0.35-llvm-macosx.tgz 12.2 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-fedora26.tgz 2.83 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-macosx.tgz 2.26 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-stretch.tgz 2.93 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-ubuntu14.tgz 3.15 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-windows.installer.ps1 6.19 MB ghdl-0.35-mcode-windows.zip 2.31 MB ghdl-0.35-mingw32-mcode.zip 3.05 MB ghdl-0.35-mingw64-llvm.zip 12.7 MB ghdl-gpl-0.35-mcode.tgz 2.61 MB Source code (zip) Source code (tar.gz) Download statistics: Do I have to download all listed files into one holder of Window 10, run ghdl-0.35-mcode-windows.installer.ps1 and that's all? Thank you. Weng
Reply by ●December 11, 20182018-12-11
On 09/12/2018 01:46, Weng Tianxiang wrote:> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 8:22:38 AM UTC-8, KJ wrote: >> On Friday, December 7, 2018 at 1:27:55 PM UTC-5, Weng Tianxiang wrote: >>> On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 5:33:03 PM UTC-8, KJ wrote: >>>> I prefer Modelsim but I did try GHDL. It works under Windows as well, which is what I used. >>>> >>>> Kevin >>> >>> Hi Kevin, >>> >>> I registered an account in GitHub, and I found I missed and could not find GHDL in any version. >>> >>> Could you please give me the website to download GitHub window version? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Weng >> >> https://github.com/ghdl/ghdl/releases >> >> Kevin > > Hi Kevin, > > Thank you very much !!! > > I am not an experienced application user. Here I copied all related download file names from the website you suggested above:<snip> Why not use the Windows executables? http://ghdl.free.fr/site/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Download -- Mike Perkins Video Solutions Ltd www.videosolutions.ltd.uk
