Efinix and their new Trion FPGAs -

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 8:54:02 PM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 2:51:51 AM UTC-5, Brane2 wrote:
> > I'm talking about these guys:
> > 
> > https://www.efinixinc.com
> > 
> > Their Trion program seems interesting:
> > 
> > - it stretches from area that is occupied by Lattice's MachXO3 on the low end and ECP5 on hight end
> > - no onboard FLASH.Just OTP on few small models and nothing on high end
> > - universal tile that can do routing as well as LUT/MEM/logic
> > - 5 bit BLOCK RAM instead of traditional 9-bit
> > - additional simpplifications on the process end claim 4x chip price reduction ( only 7 metalisation layers instead of 14 etc)
> > 
> > Trion on first impression looks nice, but:
> > 
> > - a bit slower than ECP5
> > - based on digikey prices, not cheaper than EPC5, or even pricier at some points
> > 
> > has anyone used them and has some data to share on the matter ?
> 
> Looking at their manuals they seem to not provide any simulation capability.  They say they are compatible with iVerilog and don't mention VHDL anywhere in their documentation that I can find.  I guess they only support Verilog and you are on your own for the simulation capability.  
> 
> Interesting. 

I finally heard back from them about my login approval.  But there's nothing to see.  Their datasheets used to be behind the login and now they are not.  It got me into their store but they only have sample kits, so you still need to contact a sales person for pricing and I'm not clear what this says about availability of the T13 and T20.  Digikey only has the T4 and T8. 

All the sample boxes have 10 chips and are $100.  

The salesman wants to talk to me.  I guess I'll need to do that. 

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